You are ignorant for confusing "what you see" and "the obvious truth." I'm not saying that mexicans and blacks don't make up a large portion of gangs and gang related violence. I'm just saying to give people of color a chance to be normal instead of labeling them all as gang bangers and drug dealers. It's alright to give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes, they might just surprise you.

yeah what the coon said

Also Cyning, remember the Mafia? I know they're not quite the "all american" white gang you want to see, but their skin is relatively pale compared to blacks and hispanics. They killed a lot of innocent people, judges, cops, so forth. Gang wars were rampant, there were drug cartels, underground gambling. I guess if you really look at it, all these mexican and black gangs probably got the idea from white people.

I don't think he ever said anything to the effect that all blacks and latinos are worthless gang members. All he said was that the vast majority of gang members are blacks and latinos and the statistics do bear that out.

79% of gang members in the US are black or latino, only 10% are white. The large majority of white gang members are skinheads or ethnic Irish.

Skinheads are largely involved in drugs and theft and tend not to commit random gang violence, street fights, or drive by shootings. Irish gangs are nasty, but most of their crime is contained between their own factions. Black and latino gangs are very violent and their crimes impact the broad community on a regular basis.

Yeah, I'm not arguing with the stats. I just don't like the way Cyning is basing all of his "truths" off of what he sees. This statement in particular kind of irks me:

"What gangs do white people have compared to AFRICAN AMERICANS and mexicans? One or two, most of them are organizations that are actually fighting for a cause, not just a bunch of monkeys shooting people for no reason and selling drugs." - Cyning

This insinuates that the white gangs that are out there are fighting for a "cause" and that there are no black or hispanic organizations fighting for such a "cause," that all they do is kill and sell drugs. Again, basing this information off of nothing but what he sees I'm guessing. I really do not want to call Cyning out like this or start a flame war, I just genuinely think that this type of attitude is blatantly wrong.

I've been in n00bfest long enough to know when a joke is a joke, and when something starts to get a little out of hand. Racist jokes are funny when used in good context, and I have no problem with the "n" word or words towards other races with similar impact as long as it's just a joke. I just hope I'm not the only one in this community that thinks this way....

Just pointing one thing out Skinheads are against druggies

This topic needs to be dead by now, let's leave it dead. I really don't want to have to lock it. As far as his ban/unban goes... I've spoken with him myself, and we're making sure this doesn't happen again in exchange to give him a fresh start. The end.

I'd like to comment, Cyning is right the majority of gangs today are black and mexican and you agreed codeman. But I'd like to point out a certain clan that i think we all just forgot about Cyning, the Klu Klux Klan they were huge in racism and random violence mostly twords blacks but they still had a huge impact on society.

They are gone now but their ideals live on through the youth many new clans and groups have spawned off that KKK with the same purpose, for an all-white America and its tragic that some racism like that lives. The gangs we have today are terrible and yes most of them without a solid purpose but they still are a problem. I'm not calling you out Cyning but seriously consider the other terrible clans and gangs that are not seen very often and stick to the darkness.

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