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Mr.Reilly
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State_Radio wrote: And is that why more experts are saying against?
I'm not saying hes not a U.S. citizen, because he is. His mother was one, so therefore he is. I'm saying this birth certificate is faked.
Sorry, but with those scanners you can't decompile images that far down. Explain the signatures / ink as well and how there is no weight to them.
Clearly you didn't watch the entire video.
Yes because everything said on youtube is true right?
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Hooker
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Down? Layers are transparent outside of the part that has the image. If anything it is* parallel processing.
Maybe you should fully understand technology before you start making wild claims.
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Codeman
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Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:00 pm Posts: 443 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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State_Radio wrote: And is that why more experts are saying against?
I'm not saying hes not a U.S. citizen, because he is. His mother was one, so therefore he is. I'm saying this birth certificate is faked.
Sorry, but with those scanners you can't decompile images that far down. Explain the signatures / ink as well and how there is no weight to them.
Clearly you didn't watch the entire video. I did watch the entire video. I watched him lie about scanners the entire time. I mean come on, the guy said that scanners would scan an image into 1 single layer, which just isn't true. I guarantee that if it was just 1 single layer, some asshole on youtube would be all, "HEY! look at this shit, it's just ONE LAYER!!!!! Scanners would put the image into seperate layers because of the OCR!!!! That means we can renounce Obama as our president!!!!! YEAH!" Even if all this shit is crazy and his birth certificate is fake (which it is not) who gives a F*CK? You just said yourself that he is an American citizen...isn't that what this whole thing is about?
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Sandman
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Joined: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:53 pm Posts: 2811 Location: giving bitches wet willies
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Codeman wrote: State_Radio wrote: And is that why more experts are saying against?
I'm not saying hes not a U.S. citizen, because he is. His mother was one, so therefore he is. I'm saying this birth certificate is faked.
Sorry, but with those scanners you can't decompile images that far down. Explain the signatures / ink as well and how there is no weight to them.
Clearly you didn't watch the entire video. I did watch the entire video. I watched him lie about scanners the entire time. I mean come on, the guy said that scanners would scan an image into 1 single layer, which just isn't true. I guarantee that if it was just 1 single layer, some asshole on youtube would be all, "HEY! look at this shit, it's just ONE LAYER!!!!! Scanners would put the image into seperate layers because of the OCR!!!! That means we can renounce Obama as our president!!!!! YEAH!" Even if all this shit is crazy and his birth certificate is fake (which it is not) who gives a F*CK? You just said yourself that he is an American citizen...isn't that what this whole thing is about? You have to be born on American soil to become president of the U.S. thus the Obama birth certificate drama.
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Tazzaler
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Sandman wrote: Codeman wrote: State_Radio wrote: And is that why more experts are saying against?
I'm not saying hes not a U.S. citizen, because he is. His mother was one, so therefore he is. I'm saying this birth certificate is faked.
Sorry, but with those scanners you can't decompile images that far down. Explain the signatures / ink as well and how there is no weight to them.
Clearly you didn't watch the entire video. I did watch the entire video. I watched him lie about scanners the entire time. I mean come on, the guy said that scanners would scan an image into 1 single layer, which just isn't true. I guarantee that if it was just 1 single layer, some asshole on youtube would be all, "HEY! look at this shit, it's just ONE LAYER!!!!! Scanners would put the image into seperate layers because of the OCR!!!! That means we can renounce Obama as our president!!!!! YEAH!" Even if all this shit is crazy and his birth certificate is fake (which it is not) who gives a F*CK? You just said yourself that he is an American citizen...isn't that what this whole thing is about? You have to be born on American soil to become president of the U.S. thus the Obama birth certificate drama. More over you have to be a non-naturalized.
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fomenta
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Joined: Sun May 24, 2009 11:00 pm Posts: 2766 Location: Gettin it in
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Shorty wrote: Listen, the Government has far better 'anything' than you can imagine, I'm sure they have a scanner/software that can take a wrinkeled, faded, washing machined note and reconstruct it.
All I am say is that the real hard copy document will come out in the election and make the conspiracy nuts look like baboons. I really, really wanted this to be something but I looked at the 'decompiled' document and I could not see anything that was changed. It was enhanced and I agree that the pdf is not a 'mirror' copy but I didn't see anything that was changed.
I am not a fan of the man but he is baiting the rabid. Agree with all of this. There is probably exif / embedded metadata that shows what device this thing was scanned on -- I'd bet with 99% confidence that it's some huge high end scanner / copier / fax unit that does the more advanced stuff like OCR. I agree, a fake should look much better.
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Cyning of Scedenig
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Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 2079 Location: California
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Just one quick question, it says the nationality of his father is "AFRICAN" Weren't they putting down "NEGRO" back in the 1960s?
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Greatness
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Joined: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:00 am Posts: 988 Location: Urbana, IL
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Cyning of Scedenig wrote: Just one quick question, it says the nationality of his father is "AFRICAN" Weren't they putting down "NEGRO" back in the 1960s? They only used negro for black people that were american citizens. Back then negro was African American, and African was just that. Also why is this even a debate he has been confirmed as a Us citizen any of this other shit is just stupid.
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SuperEffect
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Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 1944 Location: Parts unknown
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Just for the record a "Certificate of live birth" is not a birth certificate.This is something you can get a judge to grant if you have lost the original and all proof has been destroyed or lost.You basically have to go before a judge and plead a case that the mother was a citizen and that the baby was born on American soil.Then the judge just makes a ruling on it.
Im not saying he is or he isn't just that its not the same thing.And hell,you cant even play little league baseball without an original (no copies) "Birth Certificate".
But maybe this will end it because if he isn't a American then everyone he appointed has to go and his vice president.I think it would then go to the speaker of the house,i think.And lets face it if we throw him out you better load your guns because the race war will be on.
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Coach
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Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:00 pm Posts: 4936 Location: Gardendale, Texas
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Ok, even if some dumb mother F*CKER were to prove that the document was fake...
Who will take him out of office? Answer that, and you've got me.
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WaffleLover
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Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:00 am Posts: 1581 Location: Zuols moms room.
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Me :D
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Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 3202 Location: nigga plz.
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Coach wrote: Ok, even if some dumb mother F*CKER were to prove that the document was fake...
Who will take him out of office? Answer that, and you've got me. They wanted to impeach Clinton for getting a BJ. Good ol' congress.
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Dieus
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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:00 pm Posts: 1045
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Codeman
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Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:00 pm Posts: 443 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Dieus wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4&feature=player_embedded#at=107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Good god, Trump got his ass handed to him. That was hilarious.
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SuperEffect
n00bfest Retired Ancient, Senior Admin
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 1944 Location: Parts unknown
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That was pretty funny,i have to admit.But i still give it to Trump for causing him more stress in the last couple months than Limbaugh,Hannity and all the rest combined could do in the last three years.
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Codeman
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Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:00 pm Posts: 443 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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SuperEffect wrote: That was pretty funny,i have to admit.But i still give it to Trump for causing him more stress in the last couple months than Limbaugh,Hannity and all the rest combined could do in the last three years. Psh, I don't think anyone is as good as spreading bullshit than those 2 retards (Hannity and Limbaugh).
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Shredder
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:12 pm Posts: 541 Location: Round Rock, TX
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State_Radio wrote: [I'm not saying hes not a U.S. citizen, because he is. His mother was one, so therefore he is. I'm saying this birth certificate is faked. I thought that for a long time as well State, but it turns out that there is was weird quirk in the law regarding citizenship of a child born on foreign soil at the time Obama was born. If a child was not born on US soil and only one parent was a US citizen then that parent had to have resided in the United States for at least 10 years, 5 of which had to be after the age of 16. Since Obama's mother was only 18 at the time she did not meet the requirement, and therefore Obama would not have been a US citizen if he was not born on US soil. There is no doubt that something strange went on when Obama was born because according to college transcripts Obama's mother was not even in Hawaii when on his supposed birthdate. It is a matter of public record that she was attending classes at the University of Washington in August of 1961. According to her transcripts she would have had to fly to Hawaii mid-week to give birth and return almost immediately to resume classes. Ann Dunham was not enrolled in the University of Hawaii until the Fall of 1962. Additionally there is a woman who claims that she was Obama's nanny when Ann Dunham attended college in Washington, which implies that he was born well before the start of the fall semester in 1961. None of it makes any sense. The fact is that Hawaii was only made a state in 1959, and in 1961 the administrative infrastructure of the state was nowhere near as tight as the rest of the United States. A few dollars in the right place and it would have been easy to get someone to create a birth record that did not exist so your child could gain US citizenship. Of course I don't know what really happened, but based on the decipherable facts things most certainly did not go down as they have been described. Ann Dunham was a very strange bird who was quite the radical non-conformist, and many things that happened around the time of Obama's birth indicate that the situation was far more complex than some people would like us to believe.
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