yeah man get the captivate but also keep tabs AT&T might be losing exclusivity to the iPhone this week therefore AT&T might be revamping its Android lineup within the month. I am expecting to see the Dell Streak within the month and if it does come out I might return my Captivate and replace it with the Streak just because a 5 inch screen is interesting to me :P. Other interesting things is google up the AT&T secret box in stores. There's a weird locked box in the middle of all the AT&T stores and noone, not even the managers, know what's in it. They are also losing those iPhone fancy stands and displays. So whatever they're planning it must be big. So keep an eye out r3xx, besides that the Samsung Captivate is definitely the way to go for now and even if something else comes out in the future the Captivate will easily last till the end of your contract especially when Froyo comes out and hopefully Gingerbread after that. :D Any more info just ask

yea, i read an article saying that verizon might be getting the iphone in 2011. maybe it will be sooner tho, or maybe at&t knows they are losing iphone exclusivity so they are trying to get another device to take its place.

::EDIT:: the dell streak is a phone. http://www.i4u.com/article34407.html calls it a tablet, and doesnt say anything about it being a phone. sorry to burst ur bubble tho.

its a phone lol its a mix between smartphone and tablet very weird but true just read reviews and it may be coming out on but its 300 bucks soooooo :( http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/07/dell-streak-priced-at-300-for-att/

Ya the Dell Streak is coming out in Aug at some point and it's a phone lol!


http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/dell-streak-retailing-for-299-with-contract-549-without-dell/

ok, the link or 2 i read just said tablet. glad to hear it is a phone as well (kinda pointless w/o the phone part IMO). $300... its a possibility, since im waiting until 2/2/2011 anyway, i will definitely keep up on its reviews.

I saw that yesterday, it looks really nice.

it definitely does, and i cant wait until the specs come out on it. wonder if it has more than a 1GHz chip?

Have you looked at the Motorola BackFlip? I'm using that phone and I think it's a decent phone. When I got it, it was $200 with a $100 mail in rebate. It's a low end smartphone with access to the Android marketplace and one of the largest keyboards you'll find on a phone. I've been using it for a few months and haven't encountered any problems.

I'd stay away from the Streak until the next generation. This is Dell's first phone and there's bound to be some screwups. Also in case you haven't heard, Dell royally screwed up recently.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/docu ... e_engadget
http://www.switched.com/2010/07/23/bad- ... e_engadget

yea, i read about dell's infected mobos, big F*CK up. definitely not getting the backflip, heard terrible things about it, and it doesnt have the speed or features i want. like no wifi.

Just get an iPhone anyways.

omg... first off, i have an iphone 3gs my parents bought for me. IT SUCKS!!! which is the reason i want to buy a different phone. i only got the iphone cause my parents paid $150 and i paid $50, much less than i would have paid for a different phone (my parents wouldnt pay for a different phone, only an iphone). APPLE SUCKS!!! STEVE JOBS IS A WHORE!

Someone's been feeding you bad info about the backflip. It's got WiFi. it might not be able to make a wifi hotspot, but it can use wifi connections.

What features are you looking for anyways?

idk, i will have to go into an att and try the backflip, but i have heard bad things about it and about motoblur.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/191036/m ... ience.html

2 quotes from: http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/arti ... 347&p=2449

Just as with the Cliq, battery life is horrid.

The screen itself does not have any performance issues. However, because Motoblur and the user interface itself can be sluggish, it would be easy to blame the display for poor performance. Rest assured, it's not the screen. It's the operating system.

quotes from: http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_moto_backflip

Oh, and about that rear touch pad. Be careful. It's way too easy to send the cursor somewhere you don't want to, or jump forward or backward a page. It's sensitive .

528-MHz processor sucks

One of the weakest Android offerings to date. Replaces Android's Google search with Yahoo. Underpowered and responds at a glacial pace while multitasking. Filled with AT&T-branded bloatware. Flimsy battery door. Screen is too small for its icon-heavy UI.

yea, definitely a PoS.
the phone only excels at serving one type of user: the mobile-tweeting, Facebook-feeding, geo-tagging oversharer. which i am not.

You've ripped on the backflip, but yet you haven't named ONE thing that you need to do that isn't supported by the phone. All the ATT bloatware can be solved by rooting the phone. Yes the proc is slow, but you haven't demonstrated a need for anything better.

1) ok, the processor is slow so it cant multitask nearly as well as other devices.

2) i have a wireless-N router in my house and the backflip doesnt support wireless-n

3) i want a user interface that works well, and is more like the standard android interface than some shitty "social-networking" crap

4) if i let my friend borrow my phone he can see all my facebook stuff, emails, and texts if he just goes to the homepage.

5) rear touch pad?? wtf is that??

6) 3.1 inches with 320 x 480 pixels isnt even close to other android phones, a bigger screen is always better.

7) battery life is horrid. 12 hours of battery life MAX (with tons of tweaking and probably shutting a lot of stuff off)!!! and it can deplete in under 7, yea, id like a phone to last longer than that. i can have my iphone on for almost 2 or 3 days with out a charge (w/o 3g or wifi), something comparable would be nice.

is that enough?

1) ok, the processor is slow so it cant multitask nearly as well as other devices.
How fast does a processor need to be in order to satisfy you? 1GHz? 2GHz? 3GHz? How much multitasking can you do on a phone anyways?

2) i have a wireless-N router in my house and the backflip doesnt support wireless-n
If having native wireless N support is important, use this list
http://www.wi-fi.org/search_products.ph ... ifications[]=41
You don't need wireless N support to work with a wireless N router. All wireless N routers support 802.11 G at a minimum and all phones with wifi will support 802.11 G

3) i want a user interface that works well, and is more like the standard android interface than some shitty "social-networking" crap
Any android phone from ATT will be nerfed. Root the phone and install a vanilla build of android if it means that much to you.

4) if i let my friend borrow my phone he can see all my facebook stuff, emails, and texts if he just goes to the homepage.
You can removes those widgets from the home page or move them to another page. There's 5 "desktops" that are available. The default settings is to include the facebook status and messages on the main desktop.

5) rear touch pad?? wtf is that??
It's a little touchpad on the back of the screen when you flip the KB open. It allows you to move around on the screen without touching the front of the screen.

6) 3.1 inches with 320 x 480 pixels isnt even close to other android phones, a bigger screen is always better.
You get what you pay for. Right now, $50 for backflip vs $200 for a high end android phone.

7) battery life is horrid. 12 hours of battery life MAX (with tons of tweaking and probably shutting a lot of stuff off)!!! and it can deplete in under 7, yea, id like a phone to last longer than that. i can have my iphone on for almost 2 or 3 days with out a charge (w/o 3g or wifi), something comparable would be nice.
BULLSHIT. I can get 48 hours on my phone between charges with light usage. With typical usage, I can get around through a day. I think the 7 hours or 12 hours is under constant usage.

is that enough?

Steve Jobs is a whore, but iphone is badass. Jailbreak it, its more fun :)

yea, a jailbroken iphone is better than a stock iphone, but a stock android device (a good one) is infitely better than anything apple has, or will ever make.

Enough bickering Samsung Captivate is where the money is at on AT&T for now jeez you and jet are back and forth lol

[quote="Jet"]1) ok, the processor is slow so it cant multitask nearly as well as other devices.
How fast does a processor need to be in order to satisfy you? 1GHz? 2GHz? 3GHz? How much multitasking can you do on a phone anyways?

yea, 1 GHz would be nice. with the ability for a 1GHz chip in a phone, why wouldnt i buy that. plus, the reviews i read say that if u have more than a few apps open it starts to get sluggish. just check the links i posted, i think the wired.com link said that.

2) i have a wireless-N router in my house and the backflip doesnt support wireless-n
If having native wireless N support is important, use this list
http://www.wi-fi.org/search_products.ph ... ifications.[]=41
You don't need wireless N support to work with a wireless N router. All wireless N routers support 802.11 G at a minimum and all phones with wifi will support 802.11 G

really, do u think i dont know this. i bought a wireless-N router to use wireless-N, not to use wireless-G. if i wanted that, i wouldnt have spent the extra money.

3) i want a user interface that works well, and is more like the standard android interface than some shitty "social-networking" crap
Any android phone from ATT will be nerfed. Root the phone and install a vanilla build of android if it means that much to you.

true, i really dont know anything about rooting so i dont know how hard/easy it is, or what it does.

4) if i let my friend borrow my phone he can see all my facebook stuff, emails, and texts if he just goes to the homepage.
You can removes those widgets from the home page or move them to another page. There's 5 "desktops" that are available. The default settings is to include the facebook status and messages on the main desktop.

ok, this 1 goes to u.

5) rear touch pad?? wtf is that??
It's a little touchpad on the back of the screen when you flip the KB open. It allows you to move around on the screen without touching the front of the screen.

interesting, how does a touch pad on the back of the screen work when im touching the fron of the screen??

6) 3.1 inches with 320 x 480 pixels isnt even close to other android phones, a bigger screen is always better.
You get what you pay for. Right now, $50 for backflip vs $200 for a high end android phone.

i would rather pay $200 for a significantly better screen.

7) battery life is horrid. 12 hours of battery life MAX (with tons of tweaking and probably shutting a lot of stuff off)!!! and it can deplete in under 7, yea, id like a phone to last longer than that. i can have my iphone on for almost 2 or 3 days with out a charge (w/o 3g or wifi), something comparable would be nice.
BULLSHIT. I can get 48 hours on my phone between charges with light usage. With typical usage, I can get around through a day. I think the 7 hours or 12 hours is under constant usage.

Ok, that isnt even close to the review i read about its battery, but ok.