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Need n00bfest help! CPU Building
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EnV
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Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:00 pm Posts: 822 Location: Connecticut
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 Need n00bfest help! CPU Building
Im looking at building a computer. Ide say the budget in price is around $500 JUST for the computer itself, i already got a good LCD screen, keyboard and mouse
I want it to be a dam good gaming computer, F*CKING fast n shit. Its been AGES since ive built a computer, like when single CPU's were the shit Lol.
So i would be looking at: Case Motherboard (duel processor) GFX Cards (dual) Sound card? Unless its integrated into the motherboard Wireless Card Power Supply
And w/e else i need that i probably forgot
HELP ME out pleeease, Is it possible to do for $500, with a little over or under
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iownzu
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Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:42 pm Posts: 356
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Insufficent Funds NUkka 500$>?
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EnV
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Ok... Than what do you think it would cost? $700?
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iownzu
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Depends, what you trying to do, like just play counter strike, or like burn movies and do alot of media work? or play some games with sick graphics like crysis?
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| Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:09 pm |
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EnV
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Well, i dont EVER plan on buying Crysis, But i want a computer that could run Crysis if i wanted it to if thats what your wondering Lol
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ApeX
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Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:00 am Posts: 715 Location: Clearwater, FL
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EnV wrote: I want it to be a dam good gaming computer, F*CKING fast n shit.
So i would be looking at: Wireless Card
Fail. But yah, $500 is a bit light for an uber gaming machine. Since you are on a budget, I'd scratch the sound card. Most onboard sound is sufficient these days (7.1) Highest end, you'd go Intel. Budget, you go AMD.
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doublesven
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ApeX wrote: EnV wrote: I want it to be a dam good gaming computer, F*CKING fast n shit.
So i would be looking at: Wireless Card
Fail. But yah, $500 is a bit light for an uber gaming machine. Since you are on a budget, I'd scratch the sound card. Most onboard sound is sufficient these days (7.1) Highest end, you'd go Intel. Budget, you go AMD. Not if you want to be uber good in css. Lol but lets see ill get back to you. O and what size moniter do you have. I don't know if you read supers post about if your max res isn't over 1680x1050 you don't need more then a 512 bit gfx. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813131232 - mobo $105 plus tax http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115206 - cpu e7400 cheeper but not as fast $118 plus tax http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819115037 - cpu e8400 can't get much better for a dual core $170 plus tax http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814150439 - gfx gts 250 $145 plus tax This all brings you in at 368 plus tax and shipping. If you opt for the e8400 it puts you around 420 lol 420. But this is with out a case I figured you would just use your old one or can get a cheep $20+ one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6829102006 - is a descent sound card a couple of n00bs have this one. It's $70 so if you want you can have a descent computer for around 500 big ones. Have fun.
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EnV
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Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:00 pm Posts: 822 Location: Connecticut
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Ight ty so far, Ive got a .... 19 Inch LCD if i can remember,
F*CK the sound card, and i would need a good case, i think i might see if my friend is selling his old CPU but it runs MWF2 on High and crysis, sooo if i find out what his specs are ill buy it off him, but before i do
Ill post the specs here to see what your guys opinion is on it
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dirkdeagler
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Since I've had poor luck building my machines from scratch, I have shopped exclusively at cyberpower for my last 4 gaming rigs. IF you're not afraid to deal with some driver issues, it's an amazing deal when compared to pricing out a system on newegg. The premium you pay for a pre-built machine is well worth the time you'd invest in building your own / ordering spare components when you find something incompatible. You can get a very capable rig for $700 there. You could also pay $500 for a decent one, but be realistic and plan for the future and drop a couple more hundy. I'm running an i7 with 6gigs ram, RAID (for speed, not data integrity, natch), and dual geforce 9500's, liquid cooled, and i barely broke $1000. Stable as hell, and runs every game I toss at it. Like others have said, skip the soundcard unless you have ungodly good speakers. Onboard is more than fine on most mobo's these days. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
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ApeX
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Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:00 am Posts: 715 Location: Clearwater, FL
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dirkdeagler wrote: Like others have said, skip the soundcard unless you have ungodly good speakers. Onboard is more than fine on most mobo's these days. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/My current PC is from CyberPower and it's the first one I haven't built myself. It was actually cheaper than the individual parts and came with a warranty. It was also way more than $500. I'm not sure how they are on the budget side, but definitely worth checking out. Also, I have a Gateway sitting around that my girlfriend used for only a few months before I upgraded and gave her my old PC. It's got a Phenom II quad in it. I'll post specs tonight if you or anyone else is interested. I think I threw a 2800xt in it, but it could probably use an upgrade.
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Gman
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If you're trying to build a machine on the cheap, you're much better off getting a single processor and a single GPU, as 9 times out of 10, a $200 video card will outperform 2x $100 video cards. Oh, and having multiple CPUs doesn't make your machine any faster. It just means you can do more shit. 2x slow processors = doing a lot of shit slowly. 1x fast processor = doing normal shit quickly.
Having two of something isn't necessarily better. You get what you pay for, and two turds don't turn into gold when you mash 'em together.
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JFOBP
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Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:00 am Posts: 3473 Location: Illinois
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What Gman said.
Why the wireless card?
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dirkdeagler
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Gman wrote: 9 times out of 10, a $200 video card will outperform 2x $100 video cards Very true. The 9500's performed well in SLI tests compared to more expensive single GPU's (on Crysis or some such top-end game, at the time of the tests). Due to diligent research, I found the 1 out of 10 exception. HOWEVER, Wish I'd researched the fact that you can't use SLI for older games (without having them turn to crap), including WoW. I've been running single-GPU since I got the thing, since all I've really run in the last 5 years has been WoW and CS.
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SuperEffect
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Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 1944 Location: Parts unknown
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I put very little time in this,so i think it can be done for under 500.On a 19'' this thing would play anything at good frames and be upgrade friendly.
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Tikimon
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ApeX wrote: dirkdeagler wrote: Like others have said, skip the soundcard unless you have ungodly good speakers. Onboard is more than fine on most mobo's these days. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/My current PC is from CyberPower and it's the first one I haven't built myself. It was actually cheaper than the individual parts and came with a warranty. It was also way more than $500. I'm not sure how they are on the budget side, but definitely worth checking out. thats where i got mine from, but mine was like $1700 but i got a 5.1 sound system with sub woofer, a 22 in monitor, and a keyboard. but i had some initial problems but they got fixed and havent had problems since (with exception on stupid friend and a virus :P)
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EnV
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-A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
-EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512-P3-N871-AR Video Card
-Sony Optiarc DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B -Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor -ASUS P5P43TD ATX Intel Motherboard -Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive -Rosewill RP550V2-D-SL 550W Power Supply -EDIMAX EW-7128G PCI Wireless Card Item #:N82E16833315041 -XION AXP 100 Gaming Series AXP100-001BK Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
all together $669
What do you guys think?
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dirkdeagler
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Tikimon wrote: ApeX wrote: dirkdeagler wrote: Like others have said, skip the soundcard unless you have ungodly good speakers. Onboard is more than fine on most mobo's these days. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/My current PC is from CyberPower and it's the first one I haven't built myself. It was actually cheaper than the individual parts and came with a warranty. It was also way more than $500. I'm not sure how they are on the budget side, but definitely worth checking out. thats where i got mine from, but mine was like $1700 but i got a 5.1 sound system with sub woofer, a 22 in monitor, and a keyboard. but i had some initial problems but they got fixed and havent had problems since (with exception on stupid friend and a virus :P) Yup, they make some sloppy mistakes, in my experience with drivers/bios. But you just plain can't beat the price. Components from newegg alone usually add up to the price of their shipped computer, esp. if you luck out on a free shipping offer.
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Mindless
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Make sure you're comfortable with your power supply, that's that something to slack on.
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doublesven
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I bought my first computer from cyberpower it ran fine no problems for a couple of months. Then I have kinda upgrade piece by piece till I'm at the one I'm using right now.
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SuperEffect
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Looks good but the 4850 is cheaper and will smoke the 9800 in resolutions you can run on a 19'' and even beyond resolutions you can handle.Im not a ati fanboy but they have better drivers and consistently beat nvidia in price vs performance.Also the pw supply isnt that bad................... but 16 amps on the 12v rails is a little weak.People always look for watts when they should look at the amps on the 12v rails.
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