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Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:56 am
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Re: Free Pancakes at IHOP today!
I LOVE PANCAKES
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Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:59 am
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Re: Free Pancakes at IHOP today!
Im gonna punch you in your one good eye next time I see you coach
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Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:09 am
winitnow
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Re: Free Pancakes at IHOP today!
Lol oursis doing it to...they said please donate if ur gonna get pancakes lol wtf then they aren't free if I pay somthing
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Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:10 pm
PiNoY
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Re: Free Pancakes at IHOP today!
I got my pancakes. Walked out with a $0 bill. Still tipped. I'm not an asshole.
Being lactose intolerant, I never get pancakes from IHOP. Their sirloin tips & eggs are decent though.
You should tell them to make it with fresh, raw milk so you get digestive enzymes but that's probably not gonna happen unless we get rid of the FDA.
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:42 am
Shredder
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Re: Free Pancakes at IHOP today!
Kwang! wrote:
Reborn wrote:
Being lactose intolerant, I never get pancakes from IHOP. Their sirloin tips & eggs are decent though.
You should tell them to make it with fresh, raw milk so you get digestive enzymes but that's probably not gonna happen unless we get rid of the FDA.
Ya, go with the raw milk for those enzymes...and all the other parasites, bacteria, and multitudes of harmful organisms that are removed by pasteurization because we all want to get things like listeriosis, typhoid fever, tuberculosis, diphtheria, and brucellosis.
The idea that raw milk is good for you is ridiculous. Pasteurization may kill off a few beneficial components, but the list of harmful crap it removes is long and drinking raw milk is playing Russian Roulette with your health.
Shredder, the only reason why Pasteurization is done is because when industrialized milk production was initialized, it had very very bad standards for cleanliness.
I prefer raw milk and if proper cleanliness and sanitation is in effect, you have little to worry about. Not only that, but cows don't eat F*CKING CORN, so pretty sure that is a huge factor in the production of bad bacteria etc. If you feed an animal something its body isn't intended to digest, all kinds of loopy shit goes on.
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:01 pm
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Re: Free Pancakes at IHOP today!
Feeding corn to cows has nothing to do with the bacteria that is present in the milk, milk borne disease was around long before Louis Pasteur dicovered microbacteria and milk from cows that ate grass could carry disease back then as well.
I agree that raw milk is fine if produced properly, but the problem with raw milk is you have no idea about the conditions in which it was produced unless you do it yourself. Also, the supposed health benefits of raw milk are as yet unverifiable through any research despite the fact that there have been many studies on the subject.
Have fun with that raw milk, I will stick to the stuff that has been cleansed of potential nastiness. Disease outbreaks related to raw milk are more common than you think.
Feeding corn to cows has nothing to do with the bacteria that is present in the milk, milk borne disease was around long before Louis Pasteur dicovered microbacteria and milk from cows that ate grass could carry disease back then as well.
You need to register to read the paper but here's an abstract:
sciencemag wrote:
The gastric stomach of humans is a barrier to food-borne pathogens, but Escherichia coli can survive at pH 2.0 if it is grown under mildly acidic conditions. Cattle are a natural reservoir for pathogenic E. coli, and cattle fed mostly grain had lower colonic pH and more acid-resistant E. coli than cattle fed only hay. On the basis of numbers and survival after acid shock, cattle that were fed grain had 106-fold more acid-resistantE. coli than cattle fed hay, but a brief period of hay feeding decreased the acid-resistant count substantially.
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A survey of 61 cattle indicated that grain supplementation could increase total and acid-resistant E. coli numbers (Table 1). Cattle fed either hay or fresh grass (pasture) had a colonic pH greater than 7.0, the total E. coli count was only 20,000 cells per gram, and virtually all of these bacteria were killed by an acid shock that mimicked the pH of gastric juice. Moderate amounts of grain (60% of dry matter) did not cause a statistically significant decrease in pH (P < 0.05), but the total E. coli population was 6.3 × 106 viable cells per gram of digesta. Some of the E. coli were killed by acid shock, but the acid-resistant count was greater than 25,000 viable cells per gram. When animals were fed more than 80% grain, the pH was significantly lower (P < 0.05), and the acid-resistant E. coli count was 250,000 viable cells per gram.
Shredder wrote:
I agree that raw milk is fine if produced properly, but the problem with raw milk is you have no idea about the conditions in which it was produced unless you do it yourself. Also, the supposed health benefits of raw milk are as yet unverifiable through any research despite the fact that there have been many studies on the subject.
Have fun with that raw milk, I will stick to the stuff that has been cleansed of potential nastiness. Disease outbreaks related to raw milk are more common than you think.
Yeah I agree that finding the right source for clean raw milk is tough, but it can be done and were I able to afford it, would probably do it myself.
The fact is, raw milk is highly digestible whereas the pasteurized stuff can cause all sorts of problems due to the lack of enzymes required to properly break down the proteins.
And the verification of all sorts of data just doesn't happen because more often than not a profit cannot be made by the companies who tend to sponsor such studies in whatever field.
For example:
Many scientific articles basically state that there is little to no benefit to detoxing through changes in diet, but as a person who as done so, I can attest to the efficacy of many detoxification techniques as well as fasting as a means of removing harmful substances from the body.
Back to the topic: I am too far away from an IHOP so I had to miss out on the pancakes. I am very picky about how they're prepared anyhow and rarely ever eat them for that reason. They also make my body feel kind-of icky.
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:45 pm
winitnow
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Re: Free Pancakes at IHOP today!
Hy guys....this is about F*CKING free pancakes for 1 day at IHop..not a raw milk is good/bad debate
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