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if you knew about the economy you would know that a free market economy will correct itself. the government is preventing the natural flow of the market. instead failing companies are being saved with MY TAX MONEY in order to salvage the over paid workers jobs.

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I realize this isn't a political community -- its a gaming community for fun -- so my bad keeping this going.

snuggle man, thanks for the post but its just the same stuff I hear daily on the news regurgitated.

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Correction/addition to nerve, he's implementing socilaistic programs into a capitalistic country for two reasons 1) to help boost the economy which most of america doesn't understand

You say "your" a lot in the rest of the post -- do you understand it. Regardless, in general, socialistic programs, while appearing to help the economy in the short term, don't help the economy in the long term. You might say FDR'd new deal was totally socialist and it got us out of the worst economic disaster of all time, the great depression -- but many economists disagree with that and say that these policies in fact delayed economic recovery. What is clear is that the ultimate fate of these policies will never be known because the country was industrialized by WWII -- greatly increasing economic output and prosperity.

I might be giving you a little too much credit to be able to relate the current scenario with anything in history though...

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and 2) because despite being the superpower you are today your very country which touts freedom and all that wonderous stuff is far behind where it should be

Where should it be? Should it be one of the European countries who refuses to take a hard stand against anyone and plays moderate while the US does the dirty work? The US has the best system of higher education. The US has one of the best (some, including myself, would say the best) and most technologically advanced and capable military. The US is a leader (or possibly soon-to-be former leader) of individual rights and in consistently ranked in the highest tier for amount of freedom provided.

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WHO health ranking circa 2000, 37th out of 190,

This survey you mention ranks health systems. The US placed lower not because of quality of care, nor responsiveness but because of cost per capita. Interestingly, the point seems moot since the US places behind only 7 countries in terms of GDP per capital (3 of which are middle eastern countries that have fortunes from oil exports). The takeaway here is that while our healthcare system may be inefficient, it is unmistakeably top notch and hell, we can afford it.

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Infant mortality rating 180/224 as per your own CIA,

Talk about deceiving. In this ranking, the more infant deaths, the lower the number, so a rank if 180 means there are only 44 countries with lower percentage of infant deaths and those are only fractions (of fractions better). With a median mortality rate above 18, the US's rate of 6.3 isn't that far behind #1 Singapore's 2.3 -- and again, we're talking less than 1% of infants who are born.

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your auto industry just blew the shitter, major financial institutions just went bankrupt and turned belly side up etc, etc.

The auto industry did crash -- but not because America sucks or Bush was the devil but because they refused to innovate. The labor unions were charging them out of business. (Don't flame me about unions, they have their place and I agree that they are important) The genius part of a capitalistic system would be that other companies would have come in and filled the void -- perhaps US Based electric car company Tesla Motors. Instead, the auto companies / banks have been bailed out with my money and now are declaring RECORD PROFITS! Funny thing is, even though we had no choice to bail them out with our taxes, no one who helped to bail out these banks will be seeing any of that profit...

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Socialization is what's needed right now to offset the current economic "depression"

Huh? Where is the justification for that statement? Everything else you said so far has been misguided or patently incorrect.

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it seems you fail to understand the implications of what's being done, capitalism is great right up until about..... Now where everything faulters

It seems you fail to do any original thinking whatsoever. Stop listening to the news, and for Gods sake think for yourself.


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I look forward to some dumbshit response or whining about one thing I said, neglecting the big picture.

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People need to suck it up and accept it that he is our president


F*CK you. I had to listen to 8 years of this bullshit with Bush and I'm going to make sure I get my 8 years of it with Obama.

F*CK you. F*CK you. F*CK you.

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you dont have a F*CKING opinion faggEto


You're fourteen and haven't figured out that jokes your lame-ass high school nerd friends find funny aren't funny to anyone else.

You don't have a F*CKING opinion.


wow 14 Really? thats how old you think i am? i was 14 when i first played on a n00bfest server....that was a couple of years ago HOMOSEXUAL

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Fomenta.

You just earned some mad respect from me.

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P.S. noobanator u ghey

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its ok kitten i still ♥ you too

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Vision isn't Native American...he would have had free college otherwise. LIES


i turned down undergrad scholarships from my tribe becuz i alrdy had 2 full scholarships to state schools and the indian colleges that are free for us are a joke, it's just a place to drink and get high.

Obama is not a socialist, please learn the definition of a socialist. If you can't read then find a socialist and ask them if Obama is a socialist. They will respond with an emphatic, "NO!"

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Fomenta.

You just earned some mad respect from me.

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P.S. noobanator u ghey



Everything I wanted to say and them some was already done by Fomenta.


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thank you fomenta. finally someone with an educated response :)

and vision, i didn't say obama is a socialist. i said he is implementing socialist programs. wealth redistribution and punishing successful people and companies sure aren't capitalistic ideas. and we are only 1/7 of the way into his term.

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raise your hand of you don't give a running F*CK about the subject matter in this thread, and find all the back and forth banter entertaining.

*raises hand*


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I like turtles!


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noobanator wrote:
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I like turtles!

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No comment, yet...

I told ya so... coming soon! Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_02

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Cool story, bro.

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the_yeti wrote:
raise your hand of you don't give a running F*CK about the subject matter in this thread, and find all the back and forth banter entertaining.

*raises hand*

if you don't give a F*CK don't post. all you do is ruin the thread for those that do give a F*CK.

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if you don't give a F*CK don't post. all you do is ruin the thread for those that do give a F*CK.


RUIN the thread?! really?! wow!

if it'll clean the sand out of your apparently sand-filled vagina, SORRY. AFTER THIS, I WILL NO LONGER POST ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS THREAD.

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the_yeti wrote:
-Purple- wrote:
if you don't give a F*CK don't post. all you do is ruin the thread for those that do give a F*CK.


RUIN the thread?! really?! wow!

if it'll clean the sand out of your apparently sand-filled vagina, SORRY. AFTER THIS, I WILL NO LONGER POST ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS THREAD.

k?


Sounds like you got the sand in your vag Muffin

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the_yeti wrote:
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if you don't give a F*CK don't post. all you do is ruin the thread for those that do give a F*CK.


RUIN the thread?! really?! wow!

if it'll clean the sand out of your apparently sand-filled vagina, SORRY. AFTER THIS, I WILL NO LONGER POST ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS THREAD.

k?


Good. Go back to sounding like Gman and let the cool kids discuss exxxtreme politixxx.

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the_yeti wrote:
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if you don't give a F*CK don't post. all you do is ruin the thread for those that do give a F*CK.


RUIN the thread?! really?! wow!

if it'll clean the sand out of your apparently sand-filled vagina, SORRY. AFTER THIS, I WILL NO LONGER POST ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS THREAD.

k?

i think you took that a little personally. i don't have sand on my taint, and i'm not attacking you. i just meant, threads are posted to create discussion. someone posting "i don't give a F*CK" doesn't create discussion, so what's the point of even posting?

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-Purple- wrote:
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if you don't give a F*CK don't post. all you do is ruin the thread for those that do give a F*CK.


RUIN the thread?! really?! wow!

if it'll clean the sand out of your apparently sand-filled vagina, SORRY. AFTER THIS, I WILL NO LONGER POST ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS THREAD.

k?

i think you took that a little personally. i don't have sand on my taint, and i'm not attacking you. i just meant, threads are posted to create discussion. someone posting "i don't give a F*CK" doesn't create discussion, so what's the point of even posting?


To truly express what a F*CKING worthless sack of shit you are by living in a country, talking smack about it, and never contributing to the political processes you "hate" so much.

And by hate, I mean get your opinions from TV shows, the media, your faggoty friends, or your failures of parents.

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