http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2007/10 ... -will-win/

The outcome of the presidential election could be predicted by how the incumbent party (party that last held office) did in the past 4 years.

"The Keys include 13 diagnostic questions that are stated as propositions that favor reelection of the incumbent party. (See table below.) When five or fewer of these propositions are false or turned against the party holding the White House, that party wins another term in office. When six or more are false, the challenging party wins."

The crisis our economy is in did not happen over night. The sub prime mortgages were instituted in 2005 with an adjustable rate taking affect 2 years later in 2007. This should have been foreseen and prevented with proper oversight. Unfortunately, the Bush administration did not feel it necessary to look over the shoulder of quite arguably the most greedy people in America.

Also, the steady rise in unemployment is not a recent event, it's been happening all year and actually if you look at the numbers pretty much throughout the Bush administration. The market is not going to recover until the new administration starts to take care of this problem. The only sector seeing any real gains is healthcare which probably won't see any drop in the near future.

I hear a lot of people crying about taxes, but if I were them I'd rather have a job which I have to pay taxes than be unemployed.

If ever there was an election that was not worth winning, it was the contest of 2008. While it was hard-fought on both sides, had McCain won, it might have spelled the end of the Republican Party. As it is, the party is well-situated to come back in 2010 and in 2012, if it learns the lessons of this year.

Simply put, all hell is about to break loose in the markets and the economy. The mortgage crisis will likely be followed by defaults in credit card debt, student loans and car loans. We will probably be set for two years of zero growth, according to economists with whom I talk. And the federal efforts to protect the nation from the worst of the recession will probably lead to huge budget deficits and resulting inflation. We are in for stagflation that could last for years.

Had McCain won, he would be the latter-day Hoover, blamed for the disaster that unfolded on his watch. Now it is Obama’s problem. With the Republicans suffering a wipeout in congressional elections (although not as bad as they feared), the ball is now squarely in the Democratic court. Good luck!
If Obama raises taxes, the situation could get even worse. With a liberal Congress on his hands, he will be constrained to move to the left, if he needs any pushing. When Clinton was elected in 1992, the Democrats in control of Congress gave him a clear message: Either you govern within the four walls of the Democratic caucus or you won’t get our support. Crossing the aisle to get Republican votes, even including the GOP in negotiations, was a no-no for which the president would pay dearly if he transgressed.

The result was predictable. Moderate initiatives like welfare reform were scrapped, the Congress passed tax hikes and legislation became festooned with liberal amendments. Faced with the need to round up every last vote in the Senate and House Democratic caucuses, Clinton had no choice but to load up conservative bills like an anti-crime measure with liberal pork (like a provision for midnight basketball courts in urban areas) to get unanimous caucus backing.

Obama will have to move left to appease his caucus. He will become their hostage, and they his jailers.


This dynamic will produce extreme-left-wing governance, which the Republicans can blame for the continuation of the recession and for any worsening. The party will recover, fed by anger at Obama’s policies, and will emerge from this defeat stronger than ever.

But the Republicans must learn the lesson of MoveOn.org. Founded in the bleak days of the Clinton impeachment, MoveOn developed a grassroots Internet base. Building up its e-list of activists and contributors, MoveOn laid the basis for the incredible Internet appeal of the Obama campaign. At last count, Obama has 4.5 million donors, most online.

Conservatives cannot count on the Republican Party to fight their battles for them, and certainly cannot count on them to win. The right needs to develop cyber-roots conservative organizations to rival the power of groups like MoveOn.org. The stellar efforts of NewsMax.com and its ally, GOPtrust.com, illustrate the power of such efforts. Together, these groups raised $10 million for an independent expenditure on media in swing states featuring the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American bombast.

And their efforts worked.

Virtually all the polls agreed that Obama would win 52-53 percent of the vote, but the surveys varied in the amount of undecideds they found. On Election Day, virtually every undecided voter went to McCain, and Obama’s final vote share was no more and no less than the 52-53 percent the surveys had predicted. This unanimity among undecided voters is attributable to the endgame of groups like GOPtrust.com and NewsMax.com.

These groups have to lead the way in running media to battle against the leftist legislation that will undoubtedly emanate from the Obama administration and the liberal Congress America has just elected. Then they can become the basis for a Republican resurgence, just as MoveOn.org was this year for the Democrats.

Chuck Norris To America: Wake Up!

Maybe, but the point is that the high-profile bankruptcies/buyouts/stock plunges were what started people panicking; and this happened right before the election.

I would have rather the economy crisis happen when it did then happen after the election.

I'm quite interested to see if Obama can do what he says he wants to do or if he has any intention of keeping his word. If he does it could be the turning point in how the game of politics is to be played if played at all.

If he can't control the Dems in Congress then he'll have problems and if he has to negotiate with them it could work against him come re-election time.

I want to see what programs he's going to cut and revise and what impact it has on government spending. I'd also like to see what kind of oversight they establish to watch big companies.

I was extremely disappointed when McCain picked Palin as his running mate. It was a political move to gain votes, she brought nothing else to the table. For me that's too much of the old tactics. Also, neither of them tried to calm the people in the crowds from yelling racial slurs and death threats about Obama until AFTER the media brought the situation to light.

Unless the GOP changes it's politics it's going to have a rought ride in the future. It's main base may not be shrinking but it is not growing nearly as fast as the Democratic base of young voters and minorities.

Come on Vision, get with teh program... The death threats were just Democratic liberal left media propaganda to make repubs look bad, gain sympathy and get more votes, it worked... but talk about dirty politics... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_25

US Secret Service probes death threats against Obama

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081009/pl ... reatsprobe

FBI: Death Threat Against Barack Obama 'Not Credible'

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_26153.aspx

That's not wholly true. At McCain rallies where his supporters referred to Obama with derogitory terms including calling him "an arab," he promptly debunked them. I recall in one instance McCain actually said something like "...he's a family man who just happens to have disagreements with me."


At this point, any statement regarding Obama's presidency is just speculation. The guy hasn't even been inaugurated yet. Quit jumping the gun by saying "THIS IS GOING TO F*CKING SUCK WE'RE ALL LOSING OUR JOBS AND ARE GOING TO BECOME SOCIALIST COMMUNISTS!!111ONEONEONE!!" Chill out and give the guy a chance. After all, the majority of Americans voted for him.

I said they did nothing until AFTER media started airing their rallies.