I was gonna put up a new thread, but if we are to have more updates ruin mani then we should have "No Awp/Autos" and/or even "FF" in the server name. Most people who end up using the awp while mani is down are random new players and/or douchebags. Also are there any other plugins we can possibly use that hasn't been affected by the updates?

AWPS are cheap and it kills servers PERIOD.

Except when it isn't no awp/auto.

for some reasons i smell Chinese food when i read this thread, awps are stupid period, their are plenty of servers you baddies can go to if you want awps, nough said.

Actually almost every CSS server is no awps/auto except gungame and ESEA servers, and a select few Deathmatch servers.

What I'd be in favor of, and I know it works pretty well, is that there is an awp restriction plugin that limits the quantity of awps according to the population of the server. So for example, 1v1 is no awps up to say, 5v5 which would be one per team and then up until 10v10 which is 2 per team and that would be the limit.

Respect n00bfest rules and forget about unbanning AWPS! It will never happen and I hope it never happens. AWPS ARE GAY!

I like allowing 1 per team, there are servers out there with those types of restrictions and it works pretty well. I really dont know why people hate them so much, they are easy to counter if you know what you are doing and 1 awp per team would not be a server killer.

We have mani, not sure how easy that is at making 1 awp as a restriction, though it would be nice if we could vote to ban flash bangs, or smoke nades for a map, during that maps session :D

Resin i'm with you with the flash bangs! I F*CKING HATE THEM!!!!!!!!! They hurt my eyes soooooooooooooo much, especially when I'm baked it bothers me a lot!

Some admins actually do ban flashes and smokes just because they hate them on certain maps.

Might as well ban everything besides ak and m4 in that case. No need to ban flashes or smokes.

awps are a part of the game its not an unfair advantage... people just hate them and say its too easy to kill with them... well if its so easy why dont those people pick one up... exactly because they prob cant.. if anything i think it should be a limit to one or two per team... kind of a compromise meet in the middle. and as for the flash bangs wow... how bout lets ban everything and run around with knives... :P

Alright, this thread has run it's course. n00bfest has the rules in place for a reason. Don't like.....o F*CKIN well.