So I have a question for you then kicking out all the old school 420 members and forcing them to start their own clan and you could have very well just started your own clan but you just wanted the gay 420 name, is no way being a douche? just got to clear that up

sounds like there may be at least one misunderstanding going on, and that is:

those of us who dropped did so willingly. we were not asked to drop. we were not kicked out.

in fact i believe we were asked to NOT drop.

carry on with the entertaining drama :D

We didn't kick the oldschool .420 members out. They left on their own accord. I was in favor of retaining the oldshool members so long as they played in the main more. We rarely or never saw them in the main, no less in vent, and they posted/post on the forums sporadically at best. Before everyone, including yourself Sandman, go to conclusions, you should get your damn facts straight. And here is a pertinent question: what would the high and mighty Forgotten Shooters subclan do about inactive members? Let them wear the tag without contribution? I think not. Its a good thing you guys have all active members so that my point wouldn't be proven.

This feuding is bullshit, low and petty and its even worse that we can't defend ourselves because we'd get F*CKING punished in some way for standing up for ourselves to elders and ancients. If you people want to bully people in lower positions than yourselves, go back to high school.

I didn't feud with anyone, but I'll tell ya' this now, and I'll end it here too.
I don't like you.
You're a F*CKING dick.
You have a piss-poor attitude.
Alot of times you seem sincere, but you'd butt-fuck anyone to get what you want.
Sometimes I wish you'd drown in a F*CKING mud-puddle.
That's all.

LOL. But in the spirit of ending thing...

Omega -- get over the fact that you pulled a completely selfish and dickhead move and caused unnecessary drama because you "loved the tag".

Instead of splitting up the subclan that was just a bunch of dudes who had fun playing together, you could have just taken the 2 or 3 players who wanted to be more competitive and start you own clan.

But nope. You couldn't do that. You had to keep the tag.

So what did you do?

You started a world of drama inside 420 which ended in it having less people. (And while you say you didn't kick them out and they resigned, I know that you may as well have because you were headed that way anyway. And don't try to lie to me like you have done multiple times in vent about this situation, I can read all your posts.)

So what was the result?

You started unnecessary drama between a group of guys (a group of guys, mind you, that at one point, were kind enough to let you into their group), and kicked out all of the members who weren't "active enough".

Except for Astros of course, because Astros was the founder of 420 and if you kicked him out you would lose your precious tag.

And you'd be a fool to think that because Dirk is a nice guy and posted that response, or because the real 420 guys stepped up and resigned before they got technically kicked out, that your actions are vindicated.

With regards to the bullying comment. Get it through your thick-ass stubborn head that its not just one person who thinks this move was fucked from the start -- and its not just me who has a problem with your attitude and think you're becoming a cancer -- its a lot of us -- hit me up on vent for more details if you really don't get it or are somehow surprised by this.

You know why you haven't defended yourself? Not because you fear "bullying" -- but because you can't. There is simply no reasonable justification for doing what you did. I mean, in your head, I'm sure there is. But then again, I'm sure there is a reason in your head for ragequitting scrims, refusing to scrim in a 420-Teabaggers scrim, whining about stacked tourney teams, etc, etc, etc.

So you can go ahead and blame me for exaggerating the situation, or blame Rok for hating you, or blame Acid for calling you a dick, but until you take a minute, man up, and realize that the problem is with you, then the bomb timer will still be counting down.

So, in response to your email to elders about how you can improve? Grow the F*CK up. Stop being such a try hard whiny bitch. Consider not only what is good for you, but what is good for the community. That'll be a start -- and if you do that you probably won't get a promotion -- but at least you'll probably avoid being demoted.

But at the end of the day Omega, you chose three characters after your name over the brotherhood and camaraderie of a subclan. And thats why I lost respect for you. But hey, you got to keep the cute little characters after your name, so F*CK everything else. GG.

(I've said my peace about this issue now, but don't mistake me putting it aside for me not worrying about it anymore. I have serious concerns.)

:(

In other news, camaraderie is a really difficult word to spell.

so maybe this thread should just be removed?????? I think it is miles away from its destination.

If I knew it was going to be that kind of party I would have sticked my dick in the mashed potatoes!!!!!

Now that I'm back and playing regularly again...F*CK yeah i'm interested lol