What is the best way to make a table layout..with just tables. I have tried to make them but it's like, i get confused the further i go lol. Any tips? or any helpful articles you have found?

TIME FOR WEB-HELP WITH GMAN:

A table layout with just tables...?

You want to have seperate tables for seperate parts of your website. If you want a menu on the top or side, you want to have a table holding that together.

If you've got something on the top, you can do some page breaks and go down, then have a big table seperating the left and right sides (if you want a menu on one side). Remember to use (td valign="top") so everything fills the cells from top to bottom. Inside those big cells, from top to bottom, you can have multiple tables that lay your shit out with even more complexity.

Summing it up: I suggest having a table or image at the top, then having one big one to divide your columns underneath that, then tables in each column to space your content/navigation out.

If you're clever, you can use SSI commands (includes) to put your content together so you don't have to change 30 pages every time you want to add a nav link.

Ok So i have drawn a little diagram, not very good but it gets the point across.



Now say i wanted to do that layout. The top banner being a table holding the banner.

Now from there i would have to insert a page break? or an empty table to seperate it?

Then Make a table left..but how would you break it from there to seperate it from the middle table?

basically i think you can just make a seperate table for the banner, just make the border 0 or w/e hidden is, and then on the left split it into 2 columns and just insert alota rows, and then merge the right column into one big one, and insert a news thing. simple really.

Alright, this is what you have to do:

If it's just an image at the top, do img src and throw the image down.

Do a few page breaks, then make a table like this:

table border="0" width="90%" align="center"

then build your columns

tr
td valign="top" width="150"
/td

td valign="top" width="500"
/td

td valign="top" width="150"
/td
/tr
/table

You could then insert your links and all that bullshit in your tables.. or you could build your own tables inside them.

Take the first TD for instance:

td valign="top" width="150" (left colum begins)

==This is inside the left column==

table border="0" cellpadding="x" cellspacing="x" width="100%" ***SEE BELOW***

tr
td valign="top"
link1
/td
/tr

tr
td valign="top"
link2
/td
/tr
/table


/td (left colum ends)




(it'll do 100% of the td it's in so almost all of your space is used). The X's are whatever you feel like using. However you want your links spaced is cool. Also, I'd suggest learning how to use stylesheets so you don't have to apply your font tags every couple of lines.

You mean CSS? Thanks for the help to.

Yeah CSS = Cascading StyleSheets.

I don't use a seperate file for the main stylesheet. You can actually do a "view source" on the main page and see the stylesheet code.

It's very simple.



You have my permission to take my stylesheet code and use it in your own site. I'd just like you to change the font and colors up a little bit.

and ACTUALLY, it can be modified to be a lot more compact... it's just a little easier to read when it's spaced out like that.

Thanks for the help Gman. Im working on the site now, it's for a friend, for his band. x.x im gonna do the best i can lol..