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I agree. Kicking them out and building a wall is a BAD idea. We still need a regular flow of illegals to perform low-wage work, unless people want to start paying $5 for a head of lettuce.

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CorpseHumper wrote:
I agree. Kicking them out and building a wall is a BAD idea. We still need a regular flow of illegals to perform low-wage work, unless people want to start paying $5 for a head of lettuce.


This can easily be fixed by repealing child labor laws and replacing them with mandatory child coal mining and field picking laws.

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Mexican government won't do shit, because the money those F*CKERS send us is the 2nd greatest income to Mexico, first is oil.

Eventhough I'm mexican and currently living in Mexico, I hate these mother F*CKERS who run away from they're country, we are all shitty, but we need the help of those 20 million people running away from home...and I know money here is an issue, what you earn in one hour is the minimum wage here for a day, but I really think that the border cowboys should hunt them down for fleeing,traitors.

I agree with Corpse in almost every way, the answer is to bill them for any shit they consume, the reality is that they are IN the US, so just let them work, and pay when needed, like having babies and shit.

I can't imagina how you country is being invaded, it is just the same here, with most of the Central American F*CKERS.

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Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.

Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.

No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.

Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

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How about, you only get citizenship as a birthright if your parents can give a valid proof of citizenship, like a green card or USA birth certificate.

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I like that. Becuase completly taking away birthright is bullshit.

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obviously you would be an american citizen if your parents are citizens this would be for births of non-american citizens.

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If the Chinese could build a 4000 mile long wall why can't we build one half it's length.

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Pyrokid wrote:
If the Chinese could build a 4000 mile long wall why can't we build one half it's length.


Because Roger Clemens ass is far more important.

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AngryKitten wrote:
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If the Chinese could build a 4000 mile long wall why can't we build one half it's length.


Because Roger Clemens ass is far more important.


Even if we get the illegals to build it in order to become US citizens?

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obviously you would be an american citizen if your parents are citizens this would be for births of non-american citizens.


I know. Illegal immigrants that come here trying to have babies would have to reveal themselves as immigrants and get deported after the baby is born, because they won't have a way of proving their citizenship.

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they wouldnt get deported for having the baby they just wouldnt get free medical care and the childeren wouldnt be citizens on this country unless both parents could prove citizenship to this country.

as far as deporting them that would be way to costly all we really would have to do is enforce the laws we have on the table and go after the companies that employee them. if you got a $50K fine for having an illegal work for you and it was enforced the illegals would leaving the country in groves or they would be trying to become citizens.

another thiing this country really needs immigration reform its crazy to think we live in an era that information gotten and found in just a few clicks of the mouse from all over the world and it takes 10 years to get a green card that is a lil rediculas to me. immigration should be streamlined should be easier and quicker to become a national citizen.

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I think the way it works, is first you have to have a Visa for a certain amount of years, then another Visa I think? And then a green card for X amount of years and another after that for a longer amount of time. THEN you get your citizenship card. And each time you try to move up the ladder, it costs more money. I think that that's the major deterrent in illegals becoming legal. They don't have the money for a Visa, but they can't work in the U.S. to get that money.

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You have 2 families... "Joe Legal" and "Joe Illegal".
Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.

"Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes
$25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted.

"Joe Illegal" also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and
gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Joe Legal.. $25..00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week = $52,000 per year
Now take 30% away for state and federal tax. Joe Legal now has $31,206.00

Joe Illegal... $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week = $31,200.00 per year.
Joe Illegal pays no taxes. Joe Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays for Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage ..
$1000.00 per month = $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00.

Joe Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and
local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year.

Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money to be eligible for Food Stamps or Welfare
so he pays for food... $1,000.00 per month = $12,000..00 per year.
Joe Legal now has $7,231. 00.

Joe Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for
Food Stamps and Welfare.
Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month = $12,000.00 per year.
Joe Legal is now in the hole -<$4,769.00>.

Joe Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy, which entirely
pays his rent of $500.00 per month = $6,000.00 per year.

Joe Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays and gets a part time job after
work to make ends meet.

Joe Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family..

Joe Legal's and Joe Illegal's children both attend the same school.
Joe Legal pay for his children's lunches while Joe Illegal's children
get free government sponsored lunches.
Joe Legal's children go home after school..

Joe Illegal's children have
an after school ESL program which, again, is provided free of charge.
Joe Legal and Joe Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services,
but Joe Legal paid for them and Jose Illegal did not pay.

ARE YOU MAD YET?!?!?!
You should be!!!


We are poised on the brink of oblivion and it will take nothing short of
an avalanche to get the bureaucrats to take action.

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

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