Iam not sure if this is a very good and "healthy" topic to post cuz it could start a "n00bfest war" and I could be banned, But I was just curious where everyone stands on this whole "War with the Middle East" and the Israel- Palestine issues. Lately, Ive been doing a lot of projects for school on these topics and I was just curious what everyone thinks. Before all you answer or make any comments towards the people who have commented previously, I want to request you not to judge people based on their opinion and dont insult each other for their views. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and by insulting anothers opinion, you are only proving how messed up and retarded you are. Thank you all for your time. :?:

I think our troops need to come home now and stop fighting a war for Money and Oil. I mean come on those people are not Terrorist no matter wha way you put it they are defending there own country and we would do the same shit if someone came and tryed to take over our shit and killed our family's and destroyed our homes. To me we are the terrorist. :D

I think i need to go over there and kill me some ragheads...

i agree with joe, but i also think we sould just blow the whole thing up and trun it into a desert again :twisted:

Hoo Rah

Oh yeah and we should save the hosties and defuse the bombs

We aren't fighting the war for only "Money and Oil", if you havent forgot they hijacked 4 planes and crashed 2 of them in the World Trade Centers killing over 2000 people and flying one into the Pentagon, the other hijacked plane failed. Not only did they kill all those innocent people, the caused alot of family grief and pain. But if it was all up to me i would give them 24 hours to exit Iran... and then drop a nuke on them and it would be all over with and they can move back into there shit hole. Americans are blaming the president for sending troops over to the middle east and them getting killed and saying theres no use of killing arabs and americans, but the way i look at it americans are not sent over there to kill arabs, theres sent to save lives. For example when they kill 2 arabs it could have saved 50-100 lives, the arabs could be hijackers, suicide bombers or anything else... just my opnion.

this what my take is on it if any one really gives a shit....

we are there to make sure that you all have the same freedoms that you have now. we are there to make sure that 9/11 never happens again. when i posted that thing from robin williams i really did mean it. if we did not want shit to happen we need to shut down the borders. but that will never happen so we have to go take care of our shit. if you don't like shut the F*CK up and move the F*CK out.

F*CK that. If you send your army into another place you better be F*CKING conquering or actually defending something of yours. I'm sick of hearing this peace keeping bullshit. It's none of our business what government is running over there. If someone or something attacks us, we give it an amount of time to surrender and if it or they don't then we invade, kill them all, and leave. That's how the Mongols controlled their empires and how the Romans controlled theirs. To begin with, we wouldn't be so hated if we stuck with isolationism. At least then they have no supportable reason to really attack us. The only recent "peace-keeping" campaign I think actually defended our rights as americans was the war against communism. Everything else after that has been some crappy attempt at showing off the United State's military strength.

Yeah but most of the men who are dieing are in Iraq. Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11, that was Afghanistan and it's not as dangerous as Iraq is.

Yeah but most of the men who are dieing are in Iraq. Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11, that was Afghanistan and it's not as dangerous as Iraq is.[/quote]


Agreed

I think you do what you gotta do, and that's the end of that. If everyone in the government does their job, then we're fine. America is a government team! Much like n00bfest, which is a gaming family. :-P

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Hussein was linked with Osama and support terrorism anyway. Plus he has been needed to take out of power for a decade now. Also think of the way he tortured all his citizens. That seems like a good reason to me to take him out of Iraq.

i skiped a lot but this is what i have to say


9/11 was bad (im not going to delve into the conspiricy theories)....afganastan was nessassary, iraq was not. the federal gvt has recived a lot of power lately, where they can pretty much spy on anyone, any where, without warrents, and whatnot. as the quote by franklin goes something like "he who gives up a little bit of freedom for a little bit of security, deserves neither and will loose both"


iraq has gone from wmd's (none were found), to saving the people, to keeping peace. the only way this will end is in civil war. we need to pull out and let the cylce of nations take its course.

Responding to everthing else. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 it was the al quida and Osama. We dont need to be in Iraq our country has enough shit of our own that needs to be fixed to be worring about anyone elses country. Also saying that we were there to stop communism is just a bullshit reason to be there because in that case we would have invaded cuba a long ass time ago Fidell is way worse to his people I kno because my family is from there my grandfather was in the cuban army just so he wouldnt have to deal with the shit of living in that country he has been in america for about 25years now and said he would never go back to cuba. There is a bunch of countrys with dictatorships were there dictator kills everyone look at Liberia. We need to pull out of iraq and fix america and then worry about Iran them fucks really have the capabillity to make nuclear bombs Iraq didnt that was just an excuse to go there so Bush could finish what his father started.

Those of you who are saying that Hussein didn't have anything to do with 9/11 are right, but there's something you're not taking into account.

Hussein is the Hitler of our generation. He uses fear tactics and genocide to get what he wants. If anyone here or any protesters had any idea how many people he killed, they wouldn't feel that we were fighting a useless war. Some of you might argue that Hussein wasn't like Hitler because he didn't invade anyone. Remember Iraq invaded Kuwait (and got their asses kicked).

There are two wars in the middle east. The one against Hussein and Hussein's rebels and the one against terrorists. The war against Hussein is over. Now we're fighting terrorists in Iraq. We're fighting the same type of Jihadist radical groups as Al-Qaeda and Ham-mas (sp?). We're fighting murderers.

The United States is in the middle-east because we're defenders of freedom. Because we're the strongest, most powerful nation in the world I believe we've got a duty to maintain the peace to a certain degree.

The USA is the hall monitor that keeps the nerds (Islamic minorities, targets of mass-murderers, victims of genocide) safe from the bullies (tyrannical rulers like Hitler, Hussein, and Mussolini).

agreed

Wow! Iam impressed. I like all your responses very much. Especially yours Gman. Thats really good. Just lettin you guys know, Saddam was linked to Al Qaida. He had previously supplied them with supplies worth well over 22 million dollars. He also threated to bomb Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt during the Gulf War. Saddam and Osama both have similiar objectives. Seventy percent of Iraqi oil is located in the north on land which originally belonged to the Kurdhs. Saddam would send out planes to Kurdhish villages to gas entire towns. Graves were discovered there that were the size of soccer fields and contained well over 300,000 people. He almost annihilated the Kurdhs. Saddam was almost worst then Hitler. He allowed his sons to rape over 20,000 women, half of which were pregnant at the time. He killed his own government officials because they werent good looking. He randomly picked out regular people and had them tortured, and subjected them to physical, mental and sexual abuse. Hidden graves were found through out Iraq. His regime is responsible for the deaths of over a million innocent people. Although George W. could not prove that Iraq had WMD, he took out one of the most brutal and violent dictatorships in the world. If I get it back soon, ill post my Senior Essay. Its all about this stuff and the Illuminati's etc etc.. Its like 31 pages so iam sure you'll enjoy it. BTW. Just wanted to thank you guys for not being vulgar about this and not insulting one another. Keep those comments coming. :)

who knows, me might have found wmd's but its TopSec. I could see why they would keep it that way. I think they have found plenty of wmds

Well, whether or not they have WMD's doesn't really matter if they're not using them, does it?

That's kinda like saying "a teenager having a fully automatic rocket launcher is fine, just as long as they don't use it!"