Ocelot_Truth wrote:
Actually we had reasons for the war.
Liberate Iraq
there was no reason to start this war when afghanistan was harboring bin Laden and the majority of al Queda leaders. I believe it was started due to Bush Sr. (who was a good president and didn't go to war until he persuaded other powers to support his effort in Iraq) GW Bush, however, recieved support only from the British and did not wait for more to join us. This action caused America to take on the role of the aggressor rather than the liberator in the view of nearly every other world power.
Ocelot_Truth wrote:
Establish a foot hold on democracy
This is bullshit. There are so many other places we can go to increase democracy and help solve global problems. Syrian genocide, African genocide/AIDS/starvation, Indian poverty, Chinese sweatshops, MEXICAN(yeah, it's right there) poverty, Latin American communistic and dictorial governments.
Ocelot_Truth wrote:
And get oil
This war, from the beginning, served no purpose of getting oil from the Middle East. Unless the Middle East became under complete control of the United States, the controlling countries would prevent the aggressive Americans from taking their precious oil. Even now, we ALL know the price of this war, which has merely prevented us from getting oil. Bush didn't realize that if he didn't succeed 100%, his plan would fail; he didn't have a plan B...
Ocelot_Truth wrote:
On top of that to stop a man that has been slaughtering, murdering and being an idiot.
I guess agreed, but Castro is worse, along with all the other things mentioned above. I would like the emphasize the IS worse, because it's an ongoing problem that has not surfaced in the current President's mind.
Ocelot_Truth wrote:
Im glad, since you are in the military and all, that you think our soldiers died for nothing. Good job stupid.
Seriously, I think they have died for nothing, other than that they died for themselves; no life is ever worthless and nobody dies without some meaning. I simply believe that it was the wrong reason that they are dying. They could be fighting anywhere else instead of Iraq, be much safer, and helping much more.
and Thank you, IonFluxx, you're about the only one who's stood up for Clinton in n00b. He didn't do anything politically wrong. Lewinsky is not political, it's private; and although stupid, it's not something that changed our economy, military, world outlook, foreign policies or security. That's why he was reelected. Bush Sr. and Clinton make up a fine case of juxtaposition beside President George W. Bush. How was he was reelected? Ignorant christians believed he could change abortion laws, which he weakly attempted once.
gg Bush, I hope America can recover quickly. Sorry to those soldiers who have to fight there. I hope you can find something reasonable for which to fight.
and although I've already written a paper... I'd like to say that now we're in Iraq, we have to finish what we've started, which could take a damn long time. Just like we have to keep the Immigrants in the US, because shipping them out would cost more money to the government than keeping them here. Let's make stricter immigration laws????