How could you even come in here and try and defend yourself? If dr. pepper watched the video, even he could tell that you were hacking. Yes, it was that obvious.

Now please, /ban yourself from the forums and don't post here again.

Later today I will post the demos and a higher-resolution video if you want. The video was made with degraded quality for portability/bandwidth consumption issues. We're already at like 30GB for the month and it's only 2/3rds over. If you claim that's legit, Turtle, I'm sorry but you're full of shit. There's absolutely no way that you could pull that legitimately and there's absolutely no way you can imply that I tampered with any of that evidence. That video wasn't taken by anyone who "had it out for you." That video was taken by one of our long-standing Generals. I didn't even want to watch the demo because I knew that you couldn't be hacking...then I watched it and I was so F*CKING shocked. I'm so disappointed in you, man. Not only for this, but for your witch hunt that you used to cover up your bullshit and your constant hacking accusations. As I said earlier, you're just like the gay-bashing white supremecist guy who beats black guys all night and bashes gays, then goes home and gets his butthole reamed by a big gay black man.

I'm disappointed. Very very disappointed.

I'm the one who banned you from all the servers, Turtle, and I like you. There is no conspiracy against you. There's just this video of you hacking. I've got a 60MB full-size video of it, with sound. I might upload it to a secondary site that has more bandwidth for all to see.

Wheres a rct to turn these days when one of the most outstanding people gets caught hacking. i guess this is just another reson that u need to be carfull on the internet with who u trust

p.s. there is no way that there was tampered evidence because there is no conspiricy and alot of people looked up to u turtle
p.s.s. god damn you

I told you he hacks. No one ever believed me.

Dude, that's all you had to say. After everything else, you wanna call us stupid? Please... you're the one that can't confgure a hack properly without getting caught.

Yeah, atleast turn the POV down from 180 degrees.. that's just rediculous.

Well, I watched the video better and I'm not so sure he is guilty of real "hacking". The only hack I think I may have seen is the 180 turn script. It appears he is being shot from behind by a CT at the top of the ramp as you can see bullets striking the top left corner of the box while he is looking through the double doors. I imagine he hears him shooting as well. I can't be sure he is using the 180 script because he is zoomed in 1 level on the scope then the next screen he is no scoped looking behind him. I don't know about the rest of you, but I have the ability to jump and spin 180 and kill people behind me when they start shooting me from behind. I have done it before. So do we have scripts that are considered real hax and punishable by Banning? I have buy scripts as well as walk and jump scripts. What scripts if any are not permited? 8)

The thing about it is, he didn't just immediately turn around level. If he had turned around 180 and remained level, yeah..that's pretty bullshit but it could be just a gay bind/script. If you watch, he turns UP and on to the person. He's toward the bottom of the ramp looking straight out, and then he turns a 180 and looks up in the process. The movement is so mechanical and precise that it's impossible to explain with just a bind.

Not argueing, but say if he did a jump turn, he could have jumped ontop of the T crouching directly to his right. :P

Ownd. He does speed up a bit as he picks up the bomb (speed hacks as well?) while the person on the box is still moving at normal speed. You just selfincriminated yourself bizotch. Anyway, throughout the video the game clock is consistant, so it's not like someone is out to get you. As for being able to make a blind 180 degree turn in a fraction of a second, I don't think so. You don't see any frame prior to the point between the double doors and looking at the person behind him, it's just not possible. Had he aimed next to him or a little below is understandable, but a blind turn pointing directly at midsection; GTFO.
Through even closer analysis using Windows Media Player slowmo, after the first shot he quickly looks back to where he was aiming at the double doors, back at the dude behind him, and again looks at the double doors. This all appears as one smooth motion at normal speed, it just caught my eye after seeing the black ski mask of the dude near the box twice before the motion stopped at the doors again. I say good day to you SIR!!

Yea if he turned around and stayed level where he was and then moved up, then a bind 180 script could explain it. But when he is looking at double doors and prepares to shoot and INSTANTLY shoots backwards and up probably 20 degrees and turns back towards double doors. That is just plain silly to try and defend that.

The 180 script is something we considered while reviewing. But he does have elevation changes, and fires at the same time as he turns. Later in one of the demos, the same thing happens but it's more of a 110 degree spin, then another that is about 100 degrees. This one just happens to be roughly a 180. The spin bind is possible, but not, spin-aim-fire without cheating.

Also, if you watch, you can't even see him turn. If he can't see himself turn, how can he aim and shoot?

I have done some spin-around shots before, but nothing that looked like that.

I must say i am really dissapointed, I really couldnt believed that he hacked, they are obvious, I just cant believe both of them hacked, I really did look up to both Master and Turtle when i used to play with them back in
.CAKD* <---sorry for bringin it up and i still did kinda looked up to Turtle.

GG.....Turtle

Turtle. You're dumb. You're just straight stupid if you even THINK that you can contest that demo. You're a F*CKING idiot for using it and an even bigger F*CKING moron for using the damn things and calling us wrong for calling you out. oreX really had no part in this. So take your hacking piece of shit ass, along with your brother's, and get the F*CK out of here.

turn to me, i can cook, clean, and play cz hack free

Two words: Buh Bye.

For one, When he jumped off the ledge the aimbot kicked in and picked the guy up at the door. For two, he did a few 180's while the aimbot was trying to pick up which one to shoot. Turtle, you're a HOMOSEXUAL, a pu$$y, a hell of a bad liar, and just another n00b to get banned for hacking.

I hope Sporkeh.exe worked well for you :)

If you watch it even closer, first he throws a nade, jumps up and noscopes somebody in the head, and THEN jumps down into the middle.

He sees the guy through the door, goes to shoot, does a 180 spin, sees the CT, doesn't appear to shoot, and before he dies, looks BACK into the tunnels (probably somebody coming from B) and then dies. His hacks are giving him too many targets, can't pick one to shoot?

I'm think he had an aim assist sort of thing, that you have to manually fire with. It just puts your crosshair on them.

He may not have shot at the guy because

1) He paniced. He accidently let his hacks make him do a 180 degree turn, and he knew he was busted if anybody caught that.

2) He had not used his hacks long enough to know how they would react in a situation like that, and thought he fired, but maybe fired while they were turning to meet his newly found target (the CT in the tunnel)

That may sound like a bunch of crap you don't wanna read but I just did it to get my thought process in order.

Also, about the 180-turn script, how would you explain the turn he did from the guy behind him into the tunnel, if that were true? Even though that possibility is already nulled by the fact that he turns 180 and looks up directly onto the CT.


I'm truly disappointed in Turtle. I kind of looked up to him when I was a [rct].

Hackers will be hackers.


GTFOADCB, Turtle.

What was that program someone used to find out Mastar was hacking, while watching you could see them aiming at other people through the wall?