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Would you rather gov't spend too little? :)

Yes. Then, maybe, people wouldn't "count" on then to correct their bad choices.

Why yes, yes I would. Quit taking my F*CKING money.

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."

Yah, considering we spend more on Military than all other programs combined, they need to cut spending by hundreds of billions of dollars. It is possible for us to defend ourselves without all this extra bullshit spending.

Do you realize we spend almost 1.5 trillion dollars to keep our military alive? This number includes the standing military and veteran support. Keeping that in mind, we split $789 billion between Health/Human Services, Soc. Sec. Administration, Education Dept., Food/Nutrition programs, Housing & Urban Dev., Labor Dept. and other human resources. Mind you, that's split between all of those different departments. That, sir, is insanity in practice and why I homeschool my daughter.

Rambling over, I could go on and on, but it'd get boring, heh.

Return Senate appointments to state governments.

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I realize this, and military spending as the main indication of overspending. But consider the other side... Cut military spending to the point of absolute failure in this war (failure is controversial atm, consider inarguable failure). Cut education; spend $400B on those deptartments (coach). Is this preferable?

Get out of the war, F*CK Iraq and every other country. Spend $100 billion putting up an effective border to the USA and keep all other AFRICAN AMERICANS out. Keep it defense only, then we're able to focus on educating EVERYONE so the USA is more educated and healthier than the rest of the world. USA wins in the end. Far fetched? May be. Cut spending, take care of the USA. We could do it, but our government is too worried about what is happening in the rest of the world.

I say war is an idiotic thing so certain people can line their collective wallets with cash. All it does is make people hate the USA all across the world. We aren't the police of the world, ie; Team America, where we take care of everything going on all across the globe. Take care of our own, become Xenophobes for a couple hundred years, we'll still be okay.

The alternative is, take over Canada, Mexico and all of the South American regions. Then we'd own the Western Hemisphere. We'd have the resources and power to take over the rest of the world in short order. I'd say that a war like this would only last 90 days, max. The USA has the power and wealth to control every Country in the Western Hemisphere without too much of a backlash.

However, that's not gonna happen. Too much religion in the world and too much politics.

The US government has gradually grown into what it is today in a little over 200 years. There is no instant solution so we must start gradually. The best place to start is educating the youth.

When I mean education I mean education in everything: history, math, reading, english, science, physical activity and nutrition, economics, sex, guns, all religions and philosophy, etc. etc.

Then we need to start scaling down all the entitlement programs. The only thing that might need to be increased is healthcare for children 18 and under. Kids shouldn't have to suffer from inadequate medical attention because their parents can't afford the proper care.

Of course there are a lot of other things we can do. I like kittens idea of returning senate appointments to state governments.

I do however support military spending not only because most of my friends are employed by goverrnment contractors and work in the VA system but I would rather be overprotected rather than underprotected. Quite frankly I don't ever see this mindset ever changing in this country.

lol Tiananmen square shit

Good avatar,

And i mainly agree with coach...

I disagree with you. War maybe an idiotic practice but it is something we need to do. America can not turn its back to the world and not worry about it and only protect ourselves because then we would get screwed. You'd have all these countries and people who hate America purely for the fact because most of them were raised to hate us for no reason(mainly I think those parents/people are jealous that they "spawned," in a shit-hole rather than there.) Watching all those other countries and inserting our spies and troops is keeping it only defense. I dont know about you but I dont want to be sitting here one day watching those shitty children shows on Disney with my son and then all of a sudden a nuclear holocaust wipes us out because my government wasnt aware of the world around us. They figured we would keep to ourselves and the world around us would just leave us alone because we werent bothering anyone.

The best defense is a good offense. :D

Nah just kidding. That is a retarded mentality especially since we can't afford it as a nation. All these poorer nations who buy our debt are going to be livid when they realize we can't pay it back.

because our government has spent as much as it has (argue over military/welfare/or whatever expenditures you hate most) our country is buried in debt. if you had a credit card with no limit and spent a shit load of money, what happens when you can't pay it back? you file for bankrupcy. our country cannot pay back our debt. we are bankrupt. add to that the fact that our government doesn't give a shit and wants to keep spending in excess of what they collect. 6 months ago we had to add a digit to the national deficit counter in new york, because our debt hit $10 trillion, which was a big deal. now we're over $11 trillion (http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/). that's a 10% increase in half a year.

what happens when a country can't pay back it's debt? i wish i had the real answer here, but we're in deep shit. we are owned by china and the federal reserve, which means our policies are more susceptible to their influences.

as vision was saying, there is no easy fix here. our system needs a major overhaul. there are too many people in power who do not care about the well being of our nation.

Wasnt this an avatar an sig discussion?, lol i might think that your thread has been hijack´d.

I watched that vidya and the asian had balls, and on your government issue i cant have an opinion sorry.

That's why we need a better, more advanced military than everyone else.

The only country we need to worry about is China. That is one fight I don't ever want to see happen. If anyone thinks we can easily destroy China you are sadly mistaken.

I'm NOT saying cut spending and spend it MORE WISELY and efficiently, of course that's better, what the hell?

Spend Too Little, to the point where what we have now is even less quality, yet our gov't Has the money and is not spending it.

I have to go, i may edit this post later

I say if we spend money fighting wars against Islamic Extremists, we need to spend money fighting wars against Christian Extremists and the Vatican.

kitten, i don't know if you check out www.drudgereport.com or not, but these articles (which all say pretty much the same thing) were on there yesterday talking about a report that came from homeland security. to summarize, it pretty much says that anyone who disagrees with the federal government is an extremist. we're in all deep shit.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... -on-right/

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/ ... 22&sp=true

also, if you live in texas you may have better chances than the rest of us. kitten you luck bastard!

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm