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The 2008 Legislative session has begun, and the Ammunition Accountability Act is being introduced across the country. Below is a summary of legislation that has been introduced throughout the United States. To view the bills' status click on the links to the individual bills.

Sample Legislation: The Ammunition Accountability Act
Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.



2008 Legislation
Alabama
Alabama Senate Bill 541

Arizona
Arizona House Bill 2833

California
California Senate Bill 997 (Carried Over from 2007)

Connecticut
Connecticut Senate Bill 603

Hawaii
Hawaii House Bill 2392
Hawaii Senate Bill 2020
Hawaii Senate Bill 2076
Hawaii House Resolution 82-07 (Carried Over from 2007)
Hawaii Concurrent Resolution 104-06 (Carried Over from 2007)

Illinois
Illinois House Bill 4258
Illinois House Bill 4259
Illinois House Bill 4269
Illinois House Bill 4349
Illinois Senate Bill 1095 (Carried Over from 2007)

Indiana
Indiana House Bill 1260

Kentucky
Kentucky House Bill 715

Maryland
Maryland House Bill 517

Mississippi
Mississippi Senate Bill 2286

Missouri
Missouri Senate Bill 1200

New Jersey
New Jersey Assembly Bill 2490

New York
New York Assembly Bill 10259
New York Assembly Bill 6920 (Carried Over from 2007)
New York Assembly Bill 7300 (Carried Over from 2007)
New York Senate Bill 1177 (Carried Over from 2007)
New York Senate Bill 3731 (Carried Over from 2007)

Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania House Bill

Rhode Island
Rhode Island Senate Bill 2742

South Carolina
South Carolina Senate Bill 1259

Tennessee
Tennessee House Bill 3245
Tennessee Senate Bill 3395

Washington
Washington House Bill 3359


2007 Legislation
California Senate Bill 997
Hawaii House Resolution 82-07
Hawaii Concurrent Resolution 104-06
Illinois Senate Bill 1095
Maryland House Bill 1393
New York House Bill 6920
New York House Bill 7300
New York Senate Bill 1177
New York Senate Bill 3731




http://AmmunitionAccountability.org/Legislation.htm

great, can't shoot anybody anymore and get away with it. Ammo coding is for pussies.

And this type of law is bad HOW? It doesn't affect your ability to go and get guns and shoot things. It simply hold people more accountable for their things.

And here I was hoping to shoot in the air like a happy prospector. Damn. Way to go Dems, now I can't just shoot bullets randomly wherever the hell I want.

How am I suppose to be a masked vigilante if they can find out who I am from my bullets?!

What exactly is this supposed to accomplish?

If the ammunition is stolen before it is legally sold then the information is hardly of any use, right?

I always thought a better way to keep track of handguns is to catalogue the unique engravings they make on bullets either before or after the sale of a handgun. Apparently the technology to do this is not accurate enough to be of help.

If I'm wrong then correct me on this. If someone stole your ammo then used it on someone. Wouldn't that lead it back to you instead of the person who actually used it? I agree with vision. The physical uniqueness should be used since it is like a finger print for weapon.

Just curious, which would be more valuable, knowing the gun that shot the bullet (which likely is not traceable, or who bought the bullets? What about all the older ammo in circulation. Crooks are stupid, but if I were planning something, I sure as heck would make sure I used a stolen gun/untraceable and ammo that was pre tracking efforts.

Life, liberty, and property.

Bye bye, property.

LOL, when I think about gun crimes I think of black people in the projects who don't have internet or pay attention to the news so at least some of them will never know that the bullets are traceable.

Seriously though like I said, all this does is prevent someone from buying bullets from a legit dealer. All this does is give illegal dealers the chance to make more money.
Now they can stock up on the old ammo and charge a premium to their buyers. Now if you want to buy an illegal gun you have to buy illegal ammo too.

I don't know about you but I've always looked forward into making my own ammo. How are they going to regulate that? If you can shave off serial numbers on guns can't you just shave off these markings on the bullets?

Have the ability to trace ammunition is just another thing to F*CK up the tracing process. Like I said earlier, if a crook steals ammo from someone and uses it, now that person is on the radar. Add that to the fact that they steal the weapon from someone else entirely now you have two separate people completely unrelated that are now being tracked instead of the actual culprit. So I hope that explains where I am coming from regarding this issue. Now if you did something like in "Judge Dredd" where they have the ammunition tagged with the DNA of the firer when used, that would make a lot more sense and actually help with the process.

Also forgive me for actually using Judge Dredd in an actual conversation.

One reaction to Obama win: soaring gun sales

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/11 ... un_sa.html


Fears of Democrat crackdown lead to gun sales boom

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_gun_sales

Nov 4th was a good day to buy guns; Record gun sales in CO after Obama victory

http://current.com/items/89497009_nov_4 ... ma_victory

"I was selling guns before I even opened the door," said George Horne, owner of The Gun Room. "It's gone completely mad. Everyone is buying everything I've got on the shelves. Sales have been crazy."

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Sounds like the rebellion is starting to move...good...good...(evil laughter)

Thank the F*CKING lord I am from North Dakota....the attempt to even touch gun policy in my state is a big no no....hunting is a major industry......well...probably one of the only industries in my state.

No surprise Texas isn't listed.

We don't need more laws and regulations on firearms and ammunition. Just enforce the existing laws.

Don't wanna read it. But does this have any effect on people who actually reload their own ammo?

Thats what I asked, how are they going to regulate that?

It is the fisrt step for Obama to start gun control. I hate to pull a durango but...

http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx ... 2463d99f08

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate “assault weapons,” but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

lol, I didn't do it for once! Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_06

Thank you to the peanut gallery...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_gallery

A peanut gallery is an audience that heckles the performer. The term originated in the days of vaudeville as a nickname for the cheapest (and ostensibly rowdiest) seats in the theater; the cheapest snack served at the theater would often be peanuts, which the patrons would sometimes throw at the performers on stage to show their disapproval. The phrases "no comments from the peanut gallery" or "quiet in the peanut gallery" are extensions of the name.

In the late 1940s the Howdy Doody show adopted the name to represent their audience of 40 kids.