there is a documentary coming on tonight on fox news channel its called: Obsession its about radical Islam i recommend you watch before you vote so that you might have an idea of what we are really at war with. it comes on at 9pm central time so 10 eastern. please watch it whether your a conservative or a liberal this effects us all.

here is a preview if you miss it:

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/12min.htm

I'LL WATCH IT IN CANADA SIR

Sorry, I don't find Fox news credible.

and i guess cnn is?

If you want to know what really happens around the world you hold the person you wanna know about at gunpoint and ask him whats happening.

if you missed it here is a 12min clip from the documentary. we are in scary times ppl

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/12min.htm

Damn I really wish I saw this post earlier today.

EDIT: N/m thanks for the link I'll check it out.

i watched about 8 min of that clip



damn those bastards are scary


i say nuke em

You can't trust Fox news, they are obviously biased.

You can't trust CNN because they are a bunch of tree hugging hippies. (I do make a point to watch Lou Dobbs when I get home from work) Wolf and Paula can lick it.

You can't trust any of these "documentaries", ever since Moore made 911, everyone is trying to outdo him.

It's sad that news isn't news anymore, it's all people trying to push agendas. And no side is more right or wrong than the other. It's all BS no matter who feeds it to you. All we can do is try to shift through it, and try to come up with our own viewpoints on the issues.

For the love of god, just use common sense. The issues are all simple.

Build a fence.
Keep abortions legal (For those 18 and older, let god sort them out)
Lay waste to the middle east.
Alternative fuel sources ftw. Take the power out of the oil companies hands
Flat tax.
School choice.
Legalize it.

i agree with your points but i have to say that fox is not as biased as cnn i think that cnn is more "left and right" where i think that fox is more "right and wrong" whether its conservative or liberal.

Lawls, if you havent known this by now, you have lived under a rock for your whole life. While this is all good and scary, you have to understand Israel has been going through this since forever, and as long as we are not Islamic, they will attack us. But the fact is our military is super badass and as long as we beat them to a pulp in the Middle East, they wont be able to really put an effort against us in the United States.

Since 9/11, what have Terrorists done in the United States? Not too much, because they are too busy getting killed overseas, so really this video is just a collection of facts over the past 10 years all put together to make a video that will make you all paranoid and want to buy it because you will think it will better prepare you for the end of the world. But it looks like a good movie and I might buy it for entertainment and to watch funny Arabs scream stuff they cant possibly achieve.


P.S. anyone else wonder why the hell they have Walid Shoebat (a Former PLO TERRORIST) dressed up in a suit and doing an interview instead of behind bars??? Apparantly as long as you are a Former Terrorist, you are no threat anymore.
So I can go bomb some place, then go into hiding for a few years, come out and say, "Dont worry Folks, I am a FORMER terrorist, I am going to live a normal life among you now."

but to think that if we stop fighting them over there is stupid also i think this is a great portrayal of what is really going on over there and why we have to stay in this war. i mean if your watching most of the media today you dont see this (because most of it is liberal) because they dont want you to see this. they actually think we can reason with these ppl. its been proven in their foreign policies. i personally didnt know how bad it was over there this did open my eyes a lil more and i did learn something from it. in order to stop it we have to start now. and we are in immediate danger you would be stupid to think that we are not. they will stop at nothing to kill us. and anyone else that dont believe the way they do even fellow muslims

You're somewhat right...but at the same time, the radical portions of Islam have become much more aggressively militant. Only in the past few decades has the defensive/territorial war against Israel spilled over into a global war against "The West".



They haven't done too much in the US, no. But they HAVE been attacking more in other countries (England, Spain, Russia, Thailand). In the US, they could be plotting another big hit...but even if they aren't, that doesn't really show much...there weren't any substantial Islamic terrorist attacks on US ground before 9-11, so it doesn't prove much about how much damage we're doing to them now. Although I'd agree they're taking heavy losses overseas.



He didn't really do that much (as far as any evidence shows). He was in the organization and attempted a bombing mission, which ultimately failed and led to his capture. He spent his time in an Israeli prison, and later moved to the US. He has since converted to Christianity and taken up a position defending Israel and criticizing militant Islam. The US doesn't have any jurisdiction to prosecute him, even if we wanted to. He broke a foreign law on foreign soil and served the foreign term.

there have been many plots just last month they where going to blow up planes over major cities in the US. thank you NSA for stopping the plots.

they have been fighting for 2000 years, its the natural order of things.


i say we pull out



leave behind lots of ammo


and let the problem solve itself

What it comes down to is a misinterpretation of the Qu'ran. The Qu'ran says to annihilate those who are not muslim, but it also says the exact opposite. People misinterpret the Qu'ran just like people misinterpret the Bible. It's not very different from the fanatics in our own country, and if you gave some of the people in our own country the power, they'd be suicide bombing Middle Eastern countries too.

Common sense to Kitten:

Build a fence.
Keep abortions legal (For those 18 and older, let God sort them out)
Lay waste to the middle east. We're talking sheet of glass after the nukes.
Alternative fuel sources, but drill in ANWAR until then (Increased supply will lower the prices). Stop giving money to terrorist assholes and Hugo "Me Likum Mancox" Chavez who I guess is a terrorist asshole anyway, but I like his nickname.
Flat tax.
No more government indoctrinat- education. Private schools aren't held accountable to the government so they naturally don't feel a need to turn us into mindnumb zombies to do as the government says.
Legalize it. OH GOD, DO IT.
Keep God out of politics. If God wanted people to live in a theocracy, he would never have given us free will.


I'd add more, but I have to scoot off to work. Chao!

you dont undstand lord the problem will not solve itself it will only get worse. this is not something we can just sit back and let happen or we wlll be fighting those F*CKERS over here

Well, there isn't exactly a whole lot we can do. There's no convincing them to stop fighting for their religion and beliefs. They want to settle the whole thing out their way, and we come over and intervene. The shit would be the same way if someone were invading us or an ally, you make them out to be the badguy no matter what they're fighting for so the people will support you.

We hear all the time of our soldiers being fired upon, car bombs, etc. If you're trying to be run out of your own country, what would you do? Stand around and do as your told? I'm no troop basher at all, I commend them for the job they are doing, but the higher ups are really F*CKING up. Our freedom is not at risk because of them, we are not 'fighting for our freedom,' we are liberating their shithole for God knows what, and they don't want us there.

The only way they would get over here is if we send a jet over there, invite them in, fly back, and let them loose on random cities for another reason to not send the troops home.

i was reading today where the i believe it was the palastieniens (sp) offering isreal a hunda, which is like a 10 year break in the fighting while they try to find a long term solution for the problem. kinda an interesting concept