As you may have heard us discussing in Ventrilo, I came up with some cool plugins to add to Minecraft that wouldn't take away from its original vanilla play-style. Fomenta also came up with a really awesome mod called Aether mod that is really neat and adds more items, mobs, dungeons, and even boss fights to gain loot from said dungeons. This is totally what I wish Minecraft to be... really! The poll I'm putting up is for three things...

/back
/top
Aether mod.

There really (in my opinion here) is no reason to vote no, because if you'd rather not have these options, we can easily just set up permissions to exclude those who don't want these features and wish to play without these things, except the mod. The /back command will allow you to spawn back where you died instead of origin. There is a bug that is not allowing users to set their home beds, and will instead spawn back at origin. If you're like me and you've died you know this sucks bad. The /top command is used for bringing yourself to the top of the highest block available. In other words, if you're going to be down in a mine for a long time, and eventually you get so lost you really have no idea how to get back (it's happened to alot of us) you can just type /top and get to the surface. Neither of these commands affect anyone's gameplay, and while it can be overused, it really doesn't pose a thread.

Lastly, check out this mod fomenta found. It's definitely a plus for us I think. Again, it doesn't change the vanilla feel of the game, it simply adds more stuff to do, and gives more of a purpose to play and go into mines and look around!
http://www.modsforminecraft.com/archives/tag/aether

Voting no for the time being seeing as I'm not exactly thrilled with the currently suggested options. I'll look into some plugins like the trading ones so we can get an actual system for that shit if that's something people are interested in, but for now, nay nay.

EDIT:

Like to add that /top is for pussies in my opinion. Work your way into a mine, you can work your way out. /back I'm mixed on, cause while it can be useful, it's still kinda being a pu$$y and not taking the same time to find the place you died at as you did before dying. Prepare shit, it's part of the "adventure", if you will. I'll add my thoughts to Aether as soon as I look into it.

I am with Deadman for the most part

I support full though:

/back (the frustration is just too much, don't know how Deadman does it)
and something on the lines of /sethome I think the command was because of issues players have had with the ingame bed setting your spawn.

anything else just doesn't seem right to me.

I am against /top because when you mine half the shit is getting out, removing that [getting out] removes part of mining. Sure it might be handy for underwater exploration but that's half the battle as well...trying to get up before you die. .......so pretty much what deadman said

But again, that lies in your two opinions. If you don't wanna use it don't, acid wrote that it is optional, but it shouldn't be taken away from some players who do want it or get frustrated when they DO get lost in mines and then try to dig out and die to lava or something stupid.

I'm all for a new area to explore with aether and go in with other people and kill bosses. Esp since it includes a table to repair your items with. I'm all about that.

So far all I've found interesting about Aether is Moas. In fact that's all I'd want from it, and couldn't give two shits about the rest, except maybe poison. And sorry, but the reason I stated them as being for pussies is because I feel my stuff has less value if I can just warp out, since essentially that's what can happen.

Side Note: Neat trick with /back. Kill yourself in a place you want to go to after you do something, go do that, and then /back to get out. OMG LOOPHOLE.

It's easy to say then that you don't want people to enjoy themselves because you don't want certain features. It's not like you have to use these if you don't want to.
I don't understand why you guys care so much about how others play... if that's your adventure to do things like that, you don't have to use it... simple as that. How does this affect YOU as a player. It doesn't interfere with any of your gameplay. I don't see how calling those who want simplicity "pussies" even validates your point here. Same goes for Tazz..

Half the time doing anything, cause you do half the work. Cycles into reaping twice the reward. Advantage, or am I missing something? Understand people doing more work and getting more stuff, but not vice versa. Done adding comments cause it's escalate into more of a bitchfest that I'd rather not deal with.

EDIT:

Further explaining, you skip the going out part, and use that time to mine again in the exact same fashion. Twice the mining in the same amount of time, therefore getting twice the reward. This is all my 2 cents. Take it, leave it, doesn't matter to me since it probably doesn't mean much to you either from the sound of it.

IMO, this server was supposed to be modless. That was the premise of it from the get-go. We had modded servers and they weren't nearly as populated as this one. You can learn from our previous mistakes and leave it as is, because as is, it's a good thing. Or you can go and change it back to how it was before and make it easier for faggots like money to roll into your shit.

You're going to alienate several of our players by adding any sort of mod to the server.

Edit:
I think what it should ultimately come down to is this: if you want a modded server (which obviously, you do) then go make one. But as I see it, our server is great. It's got no lag, and we have a pretty steady population of people in and out every. single. day(2-4x more than played in our previous modded servers.) Leave it alone and stop trying to F*CK with it. It's great where it is now.

I just want /give -- that is all.

I think you're more concerned of people abusing than using. It's easy to stop something like that. The entire community frowns upon doing things like this for personal gain, so everyone is the eyes and ears of n00bfest and keeping things just.

I don't think it's a good idea to shun something just by looking at the negative consequences only... that's all. Your opinion obviously counts, otherwise there wouldn't be a poll, right?

This is the internet. Not Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

Holy F*CK that's actually a game.

is there a minecraft mod for that?

Makes no sense.
Also, keep the troll comments out of this thread please.

It wasn't a troll comment, more of a point. We're on the internet. It is unreasonable to think that someone won't abuse an exploit. If we were on a different game and community maybe I could agree with you (hence the suggestion of a heavily monitored game where everyone had their hands held). As it stands though, I have yet to see a time when an exploit existed and someone wasn't abusing it. You've been an admin long enough to see that as well. I think on top of my previous point of no mods... Because that's the point of this server, that it be best to not give people that exploit.

I'm really not trying to be an asshole here... Just trying to provide a less idealistic view, because we're less than idealistic people. The hello kitty thing was mostly an attempt at humor.

Sooooo Anyways!

I think one mod that Defiantly should go In is the "Nickname" thing so people like me can roll their actual name people know them by rather than the name the signed up to Minecraft with =D

Personally, I'm totally against it. The game is about adventure and mining.

Organize yourself when you go on an adventure and fear to die because of a creeper. I died a lot, and lost things, but shit, it's the F*CKIN' game. I wouldn't type /back when I'd die in CSS or any other game. Deal with it, find your shit back, or just live with the fact that you lost a couple of iron blocks and diamonds which (honestly) aren't so hard to find.

And for the /top command, I'm totally against it too. If you get lost in a cave, that's because you can't explore properly. Find yourself ways to know where you are at any time. i.e. : put torches on the right side of the cave you're in so you just have to follow torches on the left side when you come back, leave a sand block at the places you've explored that doesn't lead to the exit, clean the caves at the same time you explore them. I've been lost 1 time in a cave, and worked my ass off to get back up (dig up).

I think the game should stay as is. Let's play it the real way. Let's play it how the game was meant to be played, an adventure that makes us rage because we have to work and look behind us every second.

EnV's right about taht though, we should have the nickname mod so we could know who's who.

Oh and Hooker does have a point. The new server was suppose to be mod free. We were supposed to play the real minecraft. I say you create a new server if you wanna play with mods. But leave this one as is and let people learn how to play the damn game for real.

So, this is the way I look at it.

The server is in beta. So some built-in features do not work right.
Some people can't set their spawn points because they can't get people to DC or sleep too, so it gets really annoying when you die and spawn out in the middle of asshole nowhere.

While I support vanilla Minecraft, and thats what I intend to play, this is not a competitive game. So what difference does it make is someone dies and uses the /back command? Or if they're mining and they use the /top command? There is no advantage/disadvantage here and it's not like we're giving people the option to teleport, warp, give (No fomenta) or anything like that.

The plus sides to all of this, we can reinstate a white list. So we can keep assholes that we don't want out. And give admins the ability to administrate the server. (kick, ban, etc.)


If anything, the Aether mod ADDS to the gameplay. It gives you a whole new area to explore, mine and build on.

These add ons in no way take away from this game, they only add to it. If you do not want the expand your exploration, or have the ability to eliminate assholes that grief you, then I find you retarded.

Anyway. qq more plox.

And LeCoq. You don't have to use the commands. No one is asking you to, no one is forcing you to. Again, this is NOT a competitive game. You can still play it as you want it. And adding these mods will allow other players to play it how they want it.

You're all just nit-picking this whole situation and it's damn retarded.

Edit: Stupid post is stupid.

I support the /back simply because since the update I have not spawned anywhere except in the spawn point. No matter whether I've slept in a bed or not. I have not ONCE spawned anywhere other than there. And that shit gets frustrating after a while.

/top and the Aether I could care less about.