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| Author: | smokeTREES [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | CS_ASSAULT |
Has anyone seen or heard if there gonna make an assault map for CS:GO? |
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| Author: | honestly? [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
I really really hope not. Keep the bad maps away from the game |
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| Author: | -Purple- [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
yeah, they would need some DRASTIC changes to that map to make it decent to play. |
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| Author: | Fird [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
im up for playing anything right about now, anything but dust/dust2 and office <_< |
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| Author: | davep [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
-Purple- wrote: yeah, they would need some DRASTIC changes to that map to make it decent to play. True, they've made dust actually good to play now and it's not a heavily CT sided map by just adding that one side hall for underpass. The only thing I can think of is if they open up the whole garage area instead of it being a half open door that way CTs can pick and push, maybe even put walls on each side of the entrance so that Ts have to shoot from right above the entrance or peak the side of the walls. |
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| Author: | Natural Stoner [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
Assault is a classic map. I disagree completely that it "sucks." I think that when people don't like classic maps, that have been around since the Betas, like Assault has, it's just because they don't know how to play the map properly, don't use teamwork, etc. They do things to get themselves owned. It's not because the map sucks. I really miss assassination maps, as_highrise, as_oilrig, as_tundra, as well as other classic maps that have disappeared like cs_docks, cs_estate, cs_747, cs_militia should be in GO (not all fucked up like source version but regular CS version). There are a boat load of good maps. People are just pussies in my opinion. I'm so F*CKING sick of dust2. These people who want to play dust2 all the time need to F*CKING uninstall the game. |
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| Author: | smokeTREES [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
Every server has been playing Dust2 or Office, and im getting tired of them already. Assault was always a lot of fun I dont know how you guys can say that map sucks. I use to choose CT because it was always alot of fun trying to get inside and kill all the campers. And stoner, i miss cs_militia soooo much haha. |
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| Author: | honestly? [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
The problem with the maps are they are extremely one sided. Its not about not using teamwork or anything like that. If the stacked side of the map has half a brain you can usually hold a site or the hosties with 2 or 3 people. The problem is there are choke points that are too small, and anyone that can aim even a little bit can hold that single point. Good maps are ones that are fairly even. Everyone hates D2 but its one of the most even maps out there, thats why its over played, and playing competitively it takes effort to win consistently. Other maps that get a bad rap are ones like de_inferno (which is an amazing map), and de_season. I will be the first to admit im not a pubstar but a tryhard scrimmer. There is a reason that maps disappear. They are bad! No one wants to play them thats why they fade into obscurity. |
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| Author: | Natural Stoner [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
I don't buy into the whole "maps are one sided" bullshit. I've raped on CT on assault, on Italy, T on aztec, etc. None of the classic maps are shitty or "one sided," there are just shitty players. Because dust2 and others are played constantly, people don't get experience and playing time on other maps. Without practice on other maps, people will suck at them, which leads people to believe they are one sided, when they are not. People used to PREFER to play CT on assault, not T. In my opinion, CS players have gone soft, lost their balls, and became pussies. I played CS for more than half a decade before I ever heard any scrubs say any, "OMG THIS MAP IS ONE SIDED" bullshit. No one ever uttered anything about maps being one sided until source came out. Anyone down for some cs_747? as_tundra? Those are some real maps right there. CS the way it was meant to be played. |
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| Author: | t0keN [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
Natural Stoner wrote: I don't buy into the whole "maps are one sided" bullshit. I've raped on CT on assault, on Italy, T on aztec, etc. None of the classic maps are shitty or "one sided," there are just shitty players. Because dust2 and others are played constantly, people don't get experience and playing time on other maps. Without practice on other maps, people will suck at them, which leads people to believe they are one sided, when they are not. People used to PREFER to play CT on assault, not T. In my opinion, CS players have gone soft, lost their balls, and became pussies. I played CS for more than half a decade before I ever heard any scrubs say any, "OMG THIS MAP IS ONE SIDED" bullshit. No one ever uttered anything about maps being one sided until source came out. Anyone down for some cs_747? as_tundra? Those are some real maps right there. CS the way it was meant to be played. Damn, you're on a roll haha. Generalizing every CS player into "pussies or soft" is ignorant as F*CK. You gotta realize that there's more than ONE way to play a game. Want to use all the weapons or all that shit go scrim. Maps can become ONE sided when the player base doesn't have experience with the game. Do I think there are one-sided maps.....NO. Do I think maps can become one-sided in a pub...yes. Just from the fact of whose playing on a map and the experience level of the players on the server. Hence the reason we have the server configured the server the way it easy. It makes it more friendly to the players who just picked up the game and are trying to learn it. |
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| Author: | Natural Stoner [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
So, we are catering to a bunch of nubs who just got the game? Not the people who have been playing for years? That makes no sense. I could give a shit about new players. If we make the game all easy, they won't get good. We are doing new players a disservice by making it all easy for them. As well as yourself, because then you won't be as good. I guess just like the rest of America, CS is getting dumbed down too. Sorry. I can't be in favor of pussiness. And why do you care so much about new players? This game is 13 years old for Christ's sake. |
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| Author: | t0keN [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
Holy F*CK....it's a good damn game. If I wanted to play the game to be good I would play competitively. I play the game to have fun. I dont care about how big my CS E-penis is. Congrats on playing the game for 13 years. Guess what, I have too. I think you're playing on the wrong server and you're in the wrong community bro. You take shit way to serious. Take a step back.....learn it's just a game....no one cares how you are and play the game for fun. |
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| Author: | Gman [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
t0keN wrote: Holy F*CK....it's a good damn game. If I wanted to play the game to be good I would play competitively. I play the game to have fun. I dont care about how big my CS E-penis is. Congrats on playing the game for 13 years. Guess what, I have too. I think you're playing on the wrong server and you're in the wrong community bro. You take shit way to serious. Take a step back.....learn it's just a game....no one cares how you are and play the game for fun. I would agree with you, except the majority of people who bitch because a map is one-sided or bitch because they're losing are like "BUT ZOMG I'M JUST PLAYING TO HAVE FUN AND IF I CAN'T WIN I DON'T HAVE FUN BOO HOO F*CK" |
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| Author: | Natural Stoner [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
WTF? This is not about "CS E-penis." Is it about fun? A lot of it, yes, indeed. Which is exactly why I want to play more classic maps and not just F*CKING dust2 and office constantly. |
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| Author: | Natural Stoner [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
Gman wrote: t0keN wrote: Holy F*CK....it's a good damn game. If I wanted to play the game to be good I would play competitively. I play the game to have fun. I dont care about how big my CS E-penis is. Congrats on playing the game for 13 years. Guess what, I have too. I think you're playing on the wrong server and you're in the wrong community bro. You take shit way to serious. Take a step back.....learn it's just a game....no one cares how you are and play the game for fun. I would agree with you, except the majority of people who bitch because a map is one-sided or bitch because they're losing are like "BUT ZOMG I'M JUST PLAYING TO HAVE FUN AND IF I CAN'T WIN I DON'T HAVE FUN BOO HOO F*CK" Brilliant point Gman. They want to play because it's all about "the fun" but will whine as soon as they start losing because, "the map is one-sided" or "the teams or stacked" or "if only the AWP was disabled," etc. It's obviously not just "about the fun" when complaints like that are made. |
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| Author: | davep [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
I'm pretty sure that having fun at CS means getting kills, so if you are bad you aren't having fun. I have never enjoyed getting raped by a person or team over and over again so the way I counter it is to get better. So I have to agree with Natural Stoner on this subject, catering to "pu$$ies" is a trend that's been happening to many games. The way I deal with it though is just to keep playing and dominate the opposing team/player over and over until they learn. But... for CS_Assault, since there are a lot of "pu$$ies" it can ruin a map the requires a bit of team work. Like you said back in the day you didn't hear about one-sided maps, people would just play it and do the best they could. Now people worry about their KDR more then ever which causes them not to work together and it makes maps like CS_Assault actually one-sided since you are trying to go into a warehouse all by yourself and crossfired all over the place. I remember back in the day where we would have people in pubs literally push the vents, back doors and front garage all at the same time without even calling it out and dominate the map within 30seconds. Now people just push one at a time seeing if the person dies from that area so they don't go that way and then try another, etc. |
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| Author: | Natural Stoner [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
davep wrote: So I have to agree with Natural Stoner on this subject, catering to "pu$$ies" is a trend that's been happening to many games. Glad someone else notices too. davep wrote: Now people worry about their KDR more then ever which causes them not to work together Yeah, the glory days of CS was before there were even stats. davep wrote: I remember back in the day where we would have people in pubs literally push the vents, back doors and front garage all at the same time without even calling it out and dominate the map within 30seconds. Yup. You've basically explained how you win cs_assault in a nut shell. davep wrote: Now people just push one at a time seeing if the person dies from that area so they don't go that way and then try another, etc. Yup. You've explained in a nut shell how you lose on cs_assault. Looks like I'm not the only one whose made these observations after all. |
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| Author: | Caniboid [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
Natural Stoner wrote: Gman wrote: t0keN wrote: Holy F*CK....it's a good damn game. If I wanted to play the game to be good I would play competitively. I play the game to have fun. I dont care about how big my CS E-penis is. Congrats on playing the game for 13 years. Guess what, I have too. I think you're playing on the wrong server and you're in the wrong community bro. You take shit way to serious. Take a step back.....learn it's just a game....no one cares how you are and play the game for fun. I would agree with you, except the majority of people who bitch because a map is one-sided or bitch because they're losing are like "BUT ZOMG I'M JUST PLAYING TO HAVE FUN AND IF I CAN'T WIN I DON'T HAVE FUN BOO HOO F*CK" Brilliant point Gman. They want to play because it's all about "the fun" but will whine as soon as they start losing because, "the map is one-sided" or "the teams or stacked" or "if only the AWP was disabled," etc. It's obviously not just "about the fun" when complaints like that are made. On the contrary my friend. Even if you only play just for fun. Joining a server where it's one sided is no fun if you're on the losing end. If you're constantly getting raped, then you have no cash, and it's not fun for everyone. I love Assault. But it's rarely fun in a pub. It's like Aztec(which is also fun at times.) It has to be organized. People have to work together to keep it even. That tends not to happen very often. More often than not, you end up with stacked teams. I used to be competitive. But now I play just for fun. But I won't say that I don't complain when my losing team needs cash, or one of the other teams good player. But that's because I want to even it up, and make it more enjoyable for everyone. No matter how good or fun maps like Assault are, they are just too much work. As for the comments about caring about new players. Of course we care about them. We have to care about every player that steps foot into this server. It's like running a business. The larger your customer base is, the better off you are. |
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| Author: | Natural Stoner [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
Well, Assault isn't a competitive map so it's really only going to be played in pubs. So, is it about fun or winning? Because you don't have to win to have fun, (ever played golf?), but it would seem some think winning is a requirement for fun in CS. It shouldn't be about money either. Just save some rounds to get the gun you want to buy and work on your pistol skills. You might find out pistols are just as good as primary weapons. Fair teams are what admins are for and the new scramble teams vote in GO there is now. I wouldn't call evening teams or really anything CS related "work." For the love of the game, I say. |
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| Author: | JoeMamma [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CS_ASSAULT |
davep wrote: I'm pretty sure that having fun at CS means getting kills, so if you are bad you aren't having fun. I'm not good at CS (we all know this) and I have a F*CKING blast playing it! Point disproven. |
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